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  1. #11
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    locals

    Excellent insights re: OBX. The way it should be.

    Overcrowding = pissed off people, in the water or out of the water.

    I often surf Cabarete in the Dominican Republic. Shoot, you can't say boo to the local monkey boys, or you're gonna get pounded right there in the water. There's no lineup, it's 'their' point esp if you're a gringo (even if ya live there, like some of my bros), snaking is the way, and it's very much YOYO (you're on your own). Might be 6 -10 monkey boy locals out in a mob of 60 people ...but they do all the bull**** tactics & will go after you, violently, if you don't bow down.

    It is what it is. I ain't no anthropologist, so no explanations forthcoming. No peace in the water there.

    So I just surf it up on the second or third set waves, after they've all competed for the first wave. And nail all their women in the bars & on the beaches ...lol....

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    Quote Originally Posted by yankee View Post
    Excellent insights re: OBX. The way it should be.

    Overcrowding = pissed off people, in the water or out of the water.

    I often surf Cabarete in the Dominican Republic. Shoot, you can't say boo to the local monkey boys, or you're gonna get pounded right there in the water. There's no lineup, it's 'their' point esp if you're a gringo (even if ya live there, like some of my bros), snaking is the way, and it's very much YOYO (you're on your own). Might be 6 -10 monkey boy locals out in a mob of 60 people ...but they do all the bull**** tactics & will go after you, violently, if you don't bow down.

    It is what it is. I ain't no anthropologist, so no explanations forthcoming. No peace in the water there.

    So I just surf it up on the second or third set waves, after they've all competed for the first wave. And nail all their women in the bars & on the beaches ...lol....
    I don know WTF yankee is talking about? I've surfed in DR several times and Most of the offenders are the visiting surfers, like it is in most places the world over...You must respect the locals......plain and simple!!!! It's honkeys like yankee with thier "Monkey boy" mentality that get thier asses pounded in the line up......Surfing belongs to all of us, Punks, Rippers, Kooks, Soul surfers, Aggro's, Monkey Boys and yes even Honkeys like Yankkke..........Get over yourselves and just SURF!!!!!!!

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    Thumbs down nope

    I don know WTF yankee is talking about? I've surfed in DR several times and Most of the offenders are the visiting surfers, like it is in most places the world over...You must respect the locals......plain and simple!!!! It's honkeys like yankee with thier "Monkey boy" mentality that get thier asses pounded in the line up......Surfing belongs to all of us, Punks, Rippers, Kooks, Soul surfers, Aggro's, Monkey Boys and yes even Honkeys like Yankkke..........Get over yourselves and just SURF!!!!!!!

    Nope. Can't agree with you on the DR scene, such as it is. Been to the north coast of the DR over 20x during past 7 years. There's a WHOLE lot of push & shove in the water, metaphorically speaking, between locals & gringos, and that includes gringos who've lived there for years. It ain't just the usual turista-local friction. As the local gringos will tell you, if you listen, "we'll always be gringos in their eyes, no matter how long we're here or even if we marry a chica & raise kids here - - ya still a gringo in the local's eye." It is what it is.

    As for the things that I mentioned in the lineup: facts.

    As for the monkey boy term: it isn't even mine, I'm quoting locals from there, gringo locals, some of whom have lived there for over ten years & surf every day there & who marry DR chicas & raise brown-skinend babies. Down there, it's different, eh ?

    Yes, surfing belongs to all of us. Agree on that one. My post was just illustrating the fact that locals in that part of the world do it one way, whereas the OBX experience that was posted sounds like a different, entirely different,way of localism. As in: ain't none.

    BTW, dbiz, although you're entitled to your opinion, I ain't no 'honkey,'you might want to keep the pejoratives to yourself ... you understanding the issue takes you a lot further.

    peace, out,
    Last edited by yankee; Oct 8, 2008 at 09:47 PM.

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    My dude it isn't the pushing and shoving in the water, it isn't the amount of people in the water it isnt the locals or the visitors it isn't about the the chicas it about the Monkey Boy comment that offended me the same way the Honkey comment offended you for that I apologize becaus the last thing I am is a bigot!! It's about ettiquete and the lack off which occurs everywhere!!!!!! I'am Dominican but raised in the USA and trust me they dislike me more there than they dislike you. Drop ins, fist fights, disrespect happens everywhere Encuentro to Oahu. The whole point is to surf and enjoy the ocean it belongs to all of us!!

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    wow, great stuff--unfourtunatly the "Aloha" spirit has been lost and I have to agree that the overcrowed, self centered world that the lawyers and TV created has given every one the divine right to be both judge and jury. I was raised in the street of New Jersey and believe me its hard to back down from a fight but more of us need to take the high road and show some class and our love for the ocean/sport.

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    apology

    You make your point clearly, DBiz....I apologize to you. I was 'reporting' the scene there...I should have thought more on how this would be received in a different context (away from the actual scene).

    The hostility in the water thing...so unnecessary....always a result of bad / no communication, just as most altercations are a result of bad / no communication.

    People in the water who get mouthy are similar to the clowns who flip people off on the road...they need to remember that sometimes the consequences for these inflammatory actions can be dire....

    I'm 6'2", 215, yah, I know what you're saying, he's the perfect size for surfing,
    My background is varied, including Gold Gloves NYC (out of the old Gramercy Gym on 14th Street, yes I knew D'Amato) & now Krav Maga proponent...I always head the other way when people in the water get riled up, which is rarely at me, but sometimes a guy gets nutso towards other people out in the water.....sometimes it is difficult to just turn away from boorish jackasses...but, my reward for destroying some jackass would be 5+ years in a federal cage for felony assault & that just ain't what I have on my personal crystal ball....Walking away from words is a cliche, but the downside these days for pounding someone's nose & cheekbones into fragments just isn't worth it.

    I can't really bear to imagine that the majority of surfers are out there to create problems, stress or tension. Heck, we paddle out to leave the ****heads & the aggro suits back in DC..... or wherever they reside.

    Peace to you DBiz, and respect.

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    Respect!

    No love lost Yankee!!! If we ever meet in Encentro we'll share the wave, beers and tostones!

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    Cabarete

    Done.

    C ya @ LAX...

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    Stick to the beach you grew up at or normally surf. If you go somewhere else show respect and you'll get waves (sometimes) The line ups are way to crowded these days. I find myself looking for places that no one surfs. The wave might not be as good but i get all the waves i want

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magnaplasm View Post
    Stick to the beach you grew up at or normally surf. If you go somewhere else show respect and you'll get waves (sometimes) The line ups are way to crowded these days.
    That's original.