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    jnash,

    I was interested in your post and the points you were making until I read the last two lines and all went to nil.

    To the last few people who have posted: Do you know what The United States of America was founded on? Do you know what The Constitution states?

    I don't know where you are from but where I am from there are too many families that have no motivation to go out and MAKE a living. They get their check from the gov every month and the sick thing is they live in nicer houses and drive newer/nicer cars than me! Obama says he will give a tax CREDIT to over 90% of the population, what he doesn't tell you is that almost 45% of the population doesn't pay income taxes! That means, when you graduate from college and get a job and work hard and save your money for YOUR family, you will be essentially writing out a check to that family around the corner who has no motivation to go out and make a living. Yet, they still keep having children they can't afford and their children's children are starting to have babies that THEY can't afford. There are families in this country that are THIRD generation wellfare!

    Now, I believe in helping people out when they are in need. Help them get back on their feet. But when the gov takes money from my paycheck and GIVES it to these people who have NO intention of getting back on their feet, I have a problem with that and you will too when you see how much you pay in taxes once you start your career. And for those of you who already have an established career, how can you sit back and agree with the spending that Obama has planned for us? All that spending with tax cuts? Not possible! Something will give and I gaurantee it will be us!

    His infomercial the other night is a precursor to the type of spending that he will impose on this country. If you know anything about economics then you know that, within a recession, if you raise taxes and "spread it around" to all the people who are on wellfare then you push the recession into a depression and that's a fact for anyone who has studied The Depression. Let those people go out and get a job, start a small business, become and entrepreneur, it's called free enterprise, not free money! That is what this country is founded on isn't it?

  2. Voting for Obama

    As a former member of the Republican't party, I am voting for Barack Obama. The past eight years we have seen the dollar lose 40% of it value, gas as double in price (it was 1.35 a gal. when Bush took office). I voted for and volunteered for the first term Bush. But everything the Republican't has touched has turned to crap. Katrina, cutting taxes during a war, enourmous gov't spending increases without oversight, wall street meltdown, the cluster*%($ that is Iraq. Need I go on?
    As for McCain, his campaign has been bipolar at best. One minute Obama is an honorable man, then hes a socialist, then a communist, then its back to, he's not ready to be president "yet". The charge that Obama is inexperienced went out the window with Palin's pick. How can anyone take the McCain campaign suggestion that she is the most qualified person in the country to be VP? What about Governor Linda Lingle of Hawaii? 2 term republican, well liked by the mostly non white masses and governs over more people and a bigger budget than Alaska. But then again she isn't a bible thumping theocrat.
    But seriously the quote "(Not to sound "racist," but can we honestly expect America to remain a First World nation with a Third World population?)" That quote alone should discredit the entire post. We are a nation of immigrants. When people were fleeing Europe, they weren't the rich "First Worlders" , they were the "third world" white people of Europe.
    I could go on but the bottom line is John McCain was the guy that the Republicans thought was too old back in 2000 when he first ran. Replublican'ts have gotten it wrong on everything in the last 8 years and McCain was right there with them, supporting Bush.
    Vote Obama, at least he will try and keep a living ocean for us to surf in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lumpy View Post
    Because Obama has great bull****ting abilities means that foreign sentiment will improve???

    Because Obama has great bull****ting abilities means that more foreign investment will come into the country??

    The hate for the country has no party lines....it is all based on the jealousy of our freedoms and rights and our wealth...including our freedoms and rights to vote for whomever we want.

    Thank you....thank you very much..
    Dude i don't buy that jealous of our freedom crap for one second. Terrorist groups don't exist out of jealousy dude. Believe it or not we cause our own problems in the middle east, and you know how? This unwavering support for Israel. We realized the instability in the region a long time ago so what did we do? We backed the guys with the biggest guns, that is, the nuclear bomb. So basically we sit over here and talk up Israel as the only stabilizing force in the middle east, but if anything we are just trying to cover our asses with the guys who are most likely to win. Well groups like Al Qaeda set out to show us they don't need the biggest guns to show that they are pissed off and won't be pushed around. I'm in no way supporting terrorism, but trying to but a little rational though into the situation. I can't stand you people with the "America is the greatest country ever" stuff. I think the America is the greatest country FOR US!!!! I wouldn't want to live anywhere else but part of being a patriot is questioning your government and making sure it's doing the best job it can. Which brings me to my reason for backing Obama. His plan for a diplomatic foreign policy is the best chance we have at repairing relations with countries like Iran and North Korea because unlike Bush he is willing to have a conversation, and heaven forbid compromise to find a solution to our past problems. If all we do is call people out on a national stage and make threats we will continue to see threats of violence. As far as all the communist, socialist talks are concerned, it seems a bit paranoid to me but hey if it happens ill be there to take Obama down just like everyone else.

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    Thumbs up Mr. Roboto

    John McCain looks like Mr. Roboto, the guy can't even lift his arms, so he without a doubt cannot go for a surf. More importantly, the fact that he cannot move his arms in an un-robot-like manner means that he will most likely pass away during his four years in office. (actually a 33% chance statistically that will occur) and then we will have Mrs. I read any and all magazines, Mrs. I'll have to get back to ya, Mrs. I can see Russia from my house, Mrs. "Joe Sixpack". Mrs. Bipartisan Maverick running the god damn country. At least if Obama goes, we will have a person who has real experience, and not someone who just got their passport last year. Screw McCain and Nailin Palin (a new porno coming out) and go democratic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Volcom732 View Post
    John McCain looks like Mr. Roboto, the guy can't even lift his arms, so he without a doubt cannot go for a surf. More importantly, the fact that he cannot move his arms in an un-robot-like manner means that he will most likely pass away during his four years in office. (actually a 33% chance statistically that will occur) and then we will have Mrs. I read any and all magazines, Mrs. I'll have to get back to ya, Mrs. I can see Russia from my house, Mrs. "Joe Sixpack". Mrs. Bipartisan Maverick running the god damn country. At least if Obama goes, we will have a person who has real experience, and not someone who just got their passport last year. Screw McCain and Nailin Palin (a new porno coming out) and go democratic.
    Wow. My IQ just dropped like 10 points after reading that. You are the reason the Electoral College exists.

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    I am not opposed to immigrants, my grandmother came here from Sweden. I am, however, against ILLEGAL immigrants and that is not racist at all. They are breaking the law and as US citizens we should want laws enforced.

    Have we been attacked since 9/11? Take a look at a chart for The Dow Jones Industrial Average over the past 50+ years and you tell me where you think it "should" be trading. It's pretty obvious that everything started becoming over inflated during the Clinton administration, the same president who lifted the regulations on the banks and FORCED the banks to lend to people who CAN"T afford a house. That is what caused the environment for this type of CORRECTION (not crisis).

    The dems say that the past eight years have been the worst, yet the market hit multiple all time highs during that time and we still haven't been attacked since 9/11. But according the Obama/Biden that will all change during the first six months of his term. "Mark my words"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Db2k5 View Post
    I'm not sure you really know what that means. Karl Marx also wanted to spread the wealth around. There is a reason socialism doesn't work.

    P.S. and don't try to tell me that it's not socialism, like every other lib out there. If you don't think he is socialist, than you my friend, don't live in reality.
    What about McCain's claim he wants to buy up all the bad mortgages? The government owning the mortgage to my house sounds pretty socialist to me. Socialism hasn't worked because it was forced on people in the past. The true dominance of socialism will only arise when the lower classes rise up in their position as the working class to realize their power in the production of goods and services. It is an idea based primarily on the industrialization that took place during the 18 and 1900's. The role of technology will one day stomp out any true possibilty for a marxist society and the true nature of past communist regimes will be realized. They were facist dictatorships under the guise of standing up for the worker. In a true marxist state the poverty that existed in the former soviet union and other countries doesn't exist in the utopian society described by Marx.

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    The reason "Mr. Roboto" moves his arms that way is because they have been broken multiple times while being tortured when he was a prisoner of war, defending this country, our rights and our freedoms. So we can go surfing whenever we want on a $600 piece of foam without even thinking twice about it.

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    So true...

    Quote Originally Posted by jbird View Post
    This is the same blind paranoid crap that got Bush elected for another 4 years. Yeah, let's continue that trend while we watch joblessness go up and our savings disappear and nobody can afford a mortgage anymore. I don't know about you, Mr. Deep pockets but I can stand a little of the wealth being spread around.

    I concur. Enough with the scare tactics. Stop being afraid.

    How can the neo-cons be trusted with our well-being when the only attack on our soil in the last 40+ years occurred on their watch. They knew there was a threat and chose not to take it seriously. If you want to be afraid, you should be frightened of them remaining in charge.

  10. Current "socialist" systems in the United States:
    - K-12 educational system.
    - State College system.
    - Police protection and in major metro areas, Fire Protection. EMTs if they aren't private.
    - Parks, federal, state and local.
    - Roads & Highways.
    - Social Security
    - Medicare
    - Hoover damn power generation.
    - Phone and electrical power delivery to rural areas.

    Current systems that are socialist leaning:
    - Farm subsidies.
    - Private colleges who get research grants.
    - Airline subsidies
    - Anything that is a "public-private" partnership. An example: Nuclear power plants being insured by the federal government because no one else will insure them.
    - Federal gov'ts buy into the banking system.
    - Feds buy into AIG, the largest insurer in the world. Think I could get a break on my car insurance?

    So the next time you drive down the road (public money) and surf the break that was recently repleneshed(public money). Or drive into the park at Indian River Inlet (public money) and surf the beach that has been replenished with sand paid for by the Army Corps of Engineers (public money).
    Just remember somebody else paid for those things with tax dollars miles away from where you are surfing.