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    "Spread the Wealth/Waves"

    You've worked extremely hard to pay your dues - surfing. You now have the strength, stamina and confidence to paddle out through thick overhead beachbreak barrels and score 25 - 30 waves in a three hour session. But you're getting way more than your share! While you're scoring a wave every six minutes, some other surfers who have not put in the time/work are having to wait 30 minutes or more between waves. Gee, wouldn't it be better for all if we spread the wealth/waves and awarded 20 of your hard-earned paddle-for-position takeoffs to your fellow surfers? Wouldn't that make it a better world? Do we really want a president and congress with that mentality?

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    BULLSH*T. 99% OF THE PEOPLE IN THIS COUNTRY MAINTAIN CLOSE TO 50% OF THE WEALTH? Do you think that that's a little bit messed up? No? I am sick of hearing that anybody who has money worked hard to earn it, and anybody that doesn't is a freeloading piece of crap, CAUSE THAT IS SURE AS HELL NOT ALWAYS THE CASE. What about the single mother that's working three jobs and trying to keep her four kids in school. Doesn't she need a tax cut? HELL YEAH. And all of this, "I earned what I have". BULLSH*T. How many people do you know that are wealthy that did not come from wealthy families? I'm sure if you gave that single mother enough money to go some Ivy League school and the opportunities those kids have, she wouldn't be in the place she's in. And doesn't anybody else think it's time for change, look at the state of this country. Bush's approval ratings are at a wonderful 22 percent, the economy is down the crapper, and we are spending close to 4,000 dollars a second on a war against a mentality. And John McCain was right their voting alongside him 90% of the time. And I hope you guys, as surfers, care about the environment. Obama has been endorsed by every major environmental agency. And to all the hardworking people on here making less than 250K that need a break, pick out a new board because you are about to get a nice tax cut. We need an end to the past 8 years, not the beginning of another 4. OBAMA 08.

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    socialism

    what about the people that can work and choose to mooch off the government?....you can't lump everyone in together and say "these people suck...they are rich..im poor and i want your money"...or i want them to be taxed more than me. Look at the wealthiest people in America...are they that way because they got lucky? no...they worked hard...Donald Trump...holy ****...a genius American..took what he knew and used it to his advantage to make billions upon billions... You know what you call when the government makes people that have lots of money give tons of it away??? SOCIALISM...you can't hate other people just because they have money. The means to do so are out there. Thats what makes where we live great. Our country was founded on poor people that eventually got sick of being poor. Yea there are people that "fall into" money and get lucky and then there are people who really try hard...on the same hand you have people who try really hard not to be dirt poor and wind up middle class and then you have people that don't give a **** and just live on welfare...thats not american...we need to take responsibility for our own actions...worry about your own fiscal responsibility and stop passing the buck on others. Our economy rests our the shoulders of the American people...not the government. The sooner we realize that the sooner we will be back on track.

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    I used to work at a fish market downtown. I was see people drive up in an Escalade on 22" chrome wheels, wearing Babyphat jeans, and carrying a Coach handbag, talking on a brand new cell phone. Then they would whip out their food stamps and buy $75 worth of crabs. Now you tell me if the welfare system is warped?


    I agree completely with lcycrusphotography. People don't want to take responsibility for themselves. They want the government to supply everything for them. Most people that are poor are there because they made bad decisions. And what happens when you make bad decisions? You get bad consequences.
    Last edited by eclipse13; Nov 1, 2008 at 02:36 PM.

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    ps

    and people that make the kind of comments above me are the same people that will piss away a tax break. Ronald Reagan's administration has proved that tax cuts for the top 10% works. And anyone who says RR was a ****ty president obviously needs a reality check. He managed to help our country out of damn near a depression. The 80's were much worse then how things are right now. and to ADWOCETT or whatever your name is? do you carry a balance of more then 100 dollars on your credit cards?? do you have more than 2 credit cards? do you save money? do you reinvest the money you save into the economy? People ***** so much and most of the time the people that ***** are the ones that are maxing out credit cards, not paying there bills, defaulting on car loans...Do you actually pay attention to whats goin on or do you just regurgitate whatever dumbass thing you hear on CNN or FOX. How about giving us a original thought and not one we have heard over and over and over again on the news... if you care about American look at candidates like Bob Barr or Ron Paul because both mccain and obama will further drag our nation down....so i'm done...whats up with this flat spell?? Hole - E - ****

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    Quote Originally Posted by lcyrusphotography View Post
    and people that make the kind of comments above me are the same people that will piss away a tax break. Ronald Reagan's administration has proved that tax cuts for the top 10% works. And anyone who says RR was a ****ty president obviously needs a reality check. He managed to help our country out of damn near a depression. The 80's were much worse then how things are right now. and to ADWOCETT or whatever your name is? do you carry a balance of more then 100 dollars on your credit cards?? do you have more than 2 credit cards? do you save money? do you reinvest the money you save into the economy? People ***** so much and most of the time the people that ***** are the ones that are maxing out credit cards, not paying there bills, defaulting on car loans...Do you actually pay attention to whats goin on or do you just regurgitate whatever dumbass thing you hear on CNN or FOX. How about giving us a original thought and not one we have heard over and over and over again on the news... if you care about American look at candidates like Bob Barr or Ron Paul because both mccain and obama will further drag our nation down....so i'm done...whats up with this flat spell?? Hole - E - ****

    Good point about how a lot of people are in debt because of credit cards and splurging... I agree. But the credit cards companies are screwing us, along with housing industries and banks. What happended? Well you know... Merril Lynch, Mae & Mac, etc. They got whatt they deserved, but too bad everything is linked in such a way that the rest of the economy will go down with it. The American people need to be smarter, and the big industries need to get less greedy, BUT we all know that won't happen.

    Too bad Barr or Poll didn't make it, so we're got to choose with what we got.

    Yeah, this flat spell is driving me crazy!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by lcyrusphotography View Post
    what about the people that can work and choose to mooch off the government?....you can't lump everyone in together and say "these people suck...they are rich..im poor and i want your money"...or i want them to be taxed more than me. Look at the wealthiest people in America...are they that way because they got lucky? no...they worked hard...Donald Trump...holy ****...a genius American..took what he knew and used it to his advantage to make billions upon billions... You know what you call when the government makes people that have lots of money give tons of it away??? SOCIALISM...you can't hate other people just because they have money. The means to do so are out there. Thats what makes where we live great. Our country was founded on poor people that eventually got sick of being poor. Yea there are people that "fall into" money and get lucky and then there are people who really try hard...on the same hand you have people who try really hard not to be dirt poor and wind up middle class and then you have people that don't give a **** and just live on welfare...thats not american...we need to take responsibility for our own actions...worry about your own fiscal responsibility and stop passing the buck on others. Our economy rests our the shoulders of the American people...not the government. The sooner we realize that the sooner we will be back on track.
    Untrue during this day and time. Fact is, it is what it is, it is failed economic policy over the past eight years, need I really get in to the war cost factor as well. Sure the credit crunch was faulty on both parties, to point the finger at one is just flat out stupid. How long ago was it that McCain and Bush said our fundamentals were strong in the economy, like 2 months ago, what a joke. Where was Bush's economic panel during this time, while the lower and middle class were barely able to buy gas and meals. Big govt is what the country needs right now, funny how conservatives still live in the Reagan era, the world has changed in 20 years and the system works a little different. Another thing the belief they have in less govt trips me out, what do you think Bush did in the past 4 years, with"free market" by nationalizing the banking, insurance and automotive industries..oh, wait GW's economic policy was responsible for that. And this is what you want?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5g5Wl2gg6o8

    Now the tax policy's are a bit ominous, but to give a tax break to companies like Exxon Mobile(OPEC) under Mccain: http://money.cnn.com/2008/10/30/news...ex.htm?cnn=yes

    The prices are coming down, but they will still make record profits. Do you realize how much of that money we could spend on several programs to boost the economy, infrastructure, etc. I am trying to find a good article that breaks it down and will post it shortly.


    I do feel that the 250 k and above tax increase under Obama is a little much, but we are in tremendous Debt people, this money doesn't come out of our butts, we have to pay it back to places much like China. So they have to suffer for a short period of time to stabilize the economy and esp. get the middle class spending again to get the machine working properly. Palin,cmon, thats hilarious. Dont beat a dead horse is what it comes down to, the middle class make up a majority of this country and is getting reemed under failed economic policy. A radical change needs to be in store, seems that Obama has sufficient and very experienced political figures that back him up as well. Smell the coffee, b/c we have completely lost our superpower status and Obama will get us back there.
    Last edited by bfloyd; Nov 1, 2008 at 03:05 PM.

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    Lightbulb big government

    big government is what got us into this mess...i don't understand how you can possibly say the system works differently... With what you are saying inflation will continue to rise...unemployment will still continue to rise. That is the problem with our country. People like Obama coming in. Buying votes essentially... telling people he will give them more money. Thats the easy way... You need to start from the top...and let it "trickle down". We can debate about this all day and most people will never come off the Obama **** sucking wagon but PLEASE remember what myself and countless thousands are saying...4 years maybe sooner, we are in for the worst economic times our country has ever seen. Stop drawing hateful lines between rich and poor.. work together, Give more power to states so that the people can have an easier time getting done what they want to get done by pressuring their senators and house reps. Get back to the fundamentals of how this great country came about. We are so far away from it we are in trouble of forgetting about it forever, young people need to start crying out for change because we are going to be reaping all the atrocities that are in front of us right now. Tell you state politicians you don't want big government. You don't want to live your life on foodstamps. Tell them you want jobs and want to work...tell them that you cut up your god damn credit cards and went out to the store and bout some fresh vegs from your local farmers and not ate fast food every day....fix yourself before you pass the blame... I have. I have one credit card...no car payments cuz I am responsible paid it off and pay my bills on time...i found a way to do that making 25k a year....so tell me it can't be done... stop being lazy and take responsibility. I'm sorry...i come from a family of debaters

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    First of all... Why did you guys ruin my last form of media untainted by political whining?

    Secondly, Socialism and a welfare state is the best way to ruin people and a country. In a place where everything is given to you, people forget how to get it themselves. When you take the tools out of peoples hands they are reliant on the govt. and get in a cycle of waiting and wanting, not working and getting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by adowcett View Post
    BULLSH*T. 99% OF THE PEOPLE IN THIS COUNTRY MAINTAIN CLOSE TO 50% OF THE WEALTH? Do you think that that's a little bit messed up? No? I am sick of hearing that anybody who has money worked hard to earn it, and anybody that doesn't is a freeloading piece of crap, CAUSE THAT IS SURE AS HELL NOT ALWAYS THE CASE. What about the single mother that's working three jobs and trying to keep her four kids in school. Doesn't she need a tax cut? HELL YEAH. And all of this, "I earned what I have". BULLSH*T. How many people do you know that are wealthy that did not come from wealthy families? I'm sure if you gave that single mother enough money to go some Ivy League school and the opportunities those kids have, she wouldn't be in the place she's in. And doesn't anybody else think it's time for change, look at the state of this country. Bush's approval ratings are at a wonderful 22 percent, the economy is down the crapper, and we are spending close to 4,000 dollars a second on a war against a mentality. And John McCain was right their voting alongside him 90% of the time. And I hope you guys, as surfers, care about the environment. Obama has been endorsed by every major environmental agency. And to all the hardworking people on here making less than 250K that need a break, pick out a new board because you are about to get a nice tax cut. We need an end to the past 8 years, not the beginning of another 4. OBAMA 08.
    I agree with you. For some reason I'm taking contemporary world issues at school but I have learned a lot about the two candidates. What reall y disturbs me is that two of my friends (landlubbers) are mind-set on McCain? Why? Because they don't look for the facts and only look at what's easiest to see - what the fricken media shows them (internet, t.v., newspaper). In order to make a good choice, you have to look at what they want to do based on facts and listen to the debate (but ALL polititcians lie). I am open to any president, and after I saw Obama's plans v. McCain, it was a no-brainer. Obama wants to reduce carbon emmisions by 80% and double fuel efficiency for vehicles. Also, he isn't dredger-happy and will only resort to oil-drilling for temporary relief for alternative energy funds. McCain on the other hand doesn't give squat about out planet and only has enviromental plans to please the public, (but Obama's taking more action).
    Now, back to the lying, all politicians lie. So if you say "Obama lies" get your head out of your A$$!!! Also, Obama isn't the Anti-christ like the bible says, why? Because the bible and other books like that always talk in metaphors or riddles... I doubt God would straight up say: "A black president will kill you." NO! Prophecy bull-crap. It's just an excuse to mess up Obama.

    I know that many of the things mentioned here weren't mentioned by anyone else, but I wanted to get everything out that I've heard people say.

    Just think head-high, glassy, barreling waves... covered in sludge. Or the air too toxic to breathe in for extended periods of time. Or the absence of the pod of dolphins you see every morning. We better start being smart because our planet is beautiful in it's natural state.