keep in mind 44009 is 20 miles off the coast. This is usually an overestimate on the south swells (upwelling). The buoy in the lewes bay, says 54 degrees. Last time I surfed (last friday), i'd say it was around 55 or so.

keep in mind 44009 is 20 miles off the coast. This is usually an overestimate on the south swells (upwelling). The buoy in the lewes bay, says 54 degrees. Last time I surfed (last friday), i'd say it was around 55 or so.
My dad uses a Ripcurl F Bomb 4/3 with boots and gloves, and is toasty warm. Personally i like a hood on windy days too.
Just be aware that the Hyperflex Amp has a built in hood, Psychos (1, 2 or 3) don't. That's not all bad, just a matter of preference. I have a Hyperflex short sleeved full suit, but it doesn't fit nearly as well as my Psychos. The Psychos are way more pricey, but you should try them on to find your particular fit. Don't buy without trying a suit on for size. The main difference between the Psycho 1 and 2 and Freak is the type of stretch rubber they are using. Hence the price differences and flexibility factor.
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MD surfer, i realize that and i know the amp 5/4/3 has a hood, and i read that psycho 1 has same type of neoprene as psycho 2, but psycho 2 is sealed on both sides of the suit. will that really make it that much warmer? i think im just better off getting the 5/4/3 amp....i hate thick suits though...
Now there's a thread changer- Which would you rather have, 53 degree chest high waves with moderate offshore winds, or 75 degree ankle biters with moderate offshore winds? Tough choice.
As for wetsuits- Hyperflex is the lowest price, but sometimes prone to an odd fit, Rip Curl, Xcel, and O'Neill are now the mid-range price with their upper level gumby suits, but they all offer lower cost suits with somewhat less high tech rubber. The top end suits like the Psycho Freak and H-Bomb tend to just get very expensive because they are touted as the ''latest/ greatest'' suit for you. It's partly about high tech developments, but mainly about marketing. That's why automobiles are re-designed each year- to keep you buying with the notion that you are upgrading.
Get the most suit you can for the price you can afford but make SURE it FITS, because the chill factor is most noticeable with a suit that ''flushes'' every time you go in the water; and then regardless of which suit you wind up with- think warm. Afterall, it surely isn't summer.
And oh yeah- don't automatically assume that hoods completely eliminate ''ice cream'' headaches. Depending upon the conditions, the ''seal'' of the hood, and your tolerance level, hoods sometimes exacerbate the headache by holding the water against your head longer inside the hood. Not fun.
And suit thickness is all relative, the newer materials are purported to be warmer and can thereby be thinner and subsequently more flexible. But then nothing beats trunking it, but that's not reasonable in winter. It's called hypothermia.
Last edited by MDSurfer; Nov 14, 2008 at 02:13 AM.
i don't mind frost in my hair and ice cubes in my barrels!
Surfed on Sunday in N.J.,Got by without the gloves for now.A wetsuit is one thing I would never by used.You know what I mean?