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  1. #141
    Quote Originally Posted by rgnsup View Post
    Damn... ^ that's a big one.


    *That's what she said...

    cricket.... cricket

  2. #142
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    Quote Originally Posted by xgen70 View Post
    in my limited years i have heard the stories about that place being able to hold crazy size due to it breaking so far out? but 30 feet is just crazy talk most any spot on the eastcoast, I would think. Anyway, right off the top of my head, only a few spots have a chance of holding such size on the eastcoast, and those were the ones I spoke of. I might be wrong about those, who knows?
    I think that's what they said about Mavericks a while back then some guy name Clark decided....

    I'm sure there is a spot on the EC you've just got to do some digging and thinking... deep water rapildy into shelf then figure out the swell / wind equation and finally have some huge BALLS...
    Last edited by smithtim; Dec 12, 2008 at 03:48 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OCSpongR View Post

    You tell me. Thats 300+ yards of the end of Frisco Pier.
    EVERYONE we where with said ATLEAST 20' face.

    That is not 20 foot dude. Sorry to be that guy, but thats more like 10-12. If it was 20 foot, it would close out. Ive surfed frisco pier that size on a few occasions, hell I was probably out on that day. A 20 foot wave would close out in frisco, no questions asked, those bars just cant handle that kind of size.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salty J View Post
    Congrats, you witnessed a 24-30 ft wave face reel off the second reef. You are familiar with the Hawaiian vs the rest of the worlds wave height measurement standard?
    yeah thats something ive never been able to grasp is why does the measurements for pipeline or even hawaii to be more precist always different for the rest of us..

  5. #145
    Quote Originally Posted by wbsurfer View Post
    yeah thats something ive never been able to grasp is why does the measurements for pipeline or even hawaii to be more precist always different for the rest of us..
    I believe Hawaiians speak "wave height" in terms of face height which would have to do with the back of the wave. So a 10 ft. wave here would be a 3-4 ft. wave there I think.
    Correct me if I'm wrong, I've always been a little confused about this as well.

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    man, i cant help but correct u here. Hawaiians measure the wave from the back, meaning they don't measure the wave face. If you have ever surfed some sizeable surf, you would know what they mean. The back of the wave literally has height. Go look at any picture of jaws from behind the lineup , you will just see a huge mound of water, that almost kinda looks like a big wave, but its really just the back of a monster jaws macker.

    Not saying ive surfed jaws or anything, but i think if u have ever surfed anything over say 8 foot, its pretty easy to notice that the wave backs have some height to them also.

  7. #147
    ok. exactly thats why I said correct me if I'm wrong. But if you read the post, I did say that Hawaiians measure from the back of the wave which means that the wave height is actually larger than the Hawaiian estimated wave height. Hence when I said the same wave on the east coast is considered a smaller wave in Hawaii.

    I'm not a bragger but yes I have surfed waves over 8 ft. I just got the terms mixed up. That's why I said "correct me if I'm wrong" and "i think" because i wasn't sure.

    "The "Hawaiian Method"
    The "Hawaiian method" proposes that wave size be measured from the back.
    It usually results in an estimation less than half that of a face measurement.
    Coming into use during the 1960's, the 'Hawaiian method apparently was adopted as pyhscological intimidation of inexperienced visitors, see histoical notes above.
    This "method" was reinforced by the inceased use of wave buoys, whose measuements often equated the "Hawaiian method".
    See below.
    It gained some popular use in the 1990's with a resurgence in media attention on big wave riding and the development of tow-in surfing that put a premium on performance extremes.
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    http://www.surfresearch.com.au/awaveheight.html

    take a look, thats what I was trying to say but I said face height accidentally because I was confused.

  8. #148
    Quote Originally Posted by Shakagrom View Post
    "The "Hawaiian Method"
    The "Hawaiian method" proposes that wave size be measured from the back.
    It usually results in an estimation less than half that of a face measurement.
    Coming into use during the 1960's, the 'Hawaiian method apparently was adopted as pyhscological intimidation of inexperienced visitors, see histoical notes above.
    This "method" was reinforced by the inceased use of wave buoys, whose measuements often equated the "Hawaiian method".
    See below.
    It gained some popular use in the 1990's with a resurgence in media attention on big wave riding and the development of tow-in surfing that put a premium on performance extremes.
    "


    http://www.surfresearch.com.au/awaveheight.html

    take a look, thats what I was trying to say but I said face height accidentally because I was confused.

    Excellent point even though I posted this a page ago. Of course you Delmarva types aren't the sharpest knives in the drawer are you?

    I was on surfline and came across this great point of reference.

    http://www.surfline.com/surf-news/mi...1019/photos/1/

    The surfline feature is an injury update from the north shore. Check out picture 5 with the video clip and see what Hawaiians (Torrey Meister) call 4ft. I believe it would equate to crap your pants surf in Ocean City, Maryland. What would you guys say.... double overhead?

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    The only thing that pisses me off is that it doesnt always make sense.

    A. How do they measure the back of a wave accurately?
    B. What about slabs like Teahupoo where the back is pretty much 0 ft and the face is like 10 to 15?

  10. #150
    The bascom, Hawaiian or whatever standards of measurement for wave height are all semantics and created with their own underlying intentions for measuring regional environments, (Hawaii has such a consistency and class of big wave, i.e. Jaws, that they are forced to call everything else smaller, in my opinion) Call me old fashioned but a wave can be measured by the face, Hawaii might say four feet but if your dropping 10 feet down into the face of the wave after the takeoff then is it four or 10 feet? I argue the the latter because we're not surfing the back of waves...But hey that's them and we're not in Hawaii right now, (see your wetsuit)

    Whatever the case may be, I think it is safe to say that the East Coast has seen Big Waves and maybe just maybe has yet to find a truly consistent big break that can handle the huge swells but you have to believe there is something out there. Couple of months back some guy posted pics of him tow in surfing the Diamond shoals well off shore from Buxton I think. There are a lot of sand bars where the gulf stream and labrador current meets. God only knows what is firing off out there when the big bad Tropics are passing by...Whose got the balls and tools to truly check it out? All I'm saying before someone says a ridable 30 foot wave on the East Coast is impossible, ask yourself; have you explored all the possibilities?


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