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    Stop titan

    Hey to all fellow surfers and waterman,

    As I'm sure all of you who are the least bit concerned about our waters here in the Southeast area of NC know, Titan, a major cement big business corporation is trying to build a plant here which would take a catastrophic toll on our water quality, the same water we all have so much fun in.

    I just want to ask all of you to please take 2 minutes of your time and stop by www.stoptitan.org and show your support by simply signing the e-petition on the site. The more signatures the better, and even for those of you who are not necessarily from this area, show your support for your fellow riders in stopping this horrific idea.

    Thank you all. God bless.

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    Seriously, a "horrific idea"? Besides the fact the the Cape Fear River is already polluted, do you really understand Titan's true impact to our environment...it's minimal. Oh yea, Titan is going to directly and indirectly create jobs, significantly increase our tax base, and dramitically cut the cost of cement for our builders, DOT, etc.

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    obviously you are ill educated and extremely hard headed, nor are you taking into consideration the water that surrounds us in this area. brush up on your facts, lose the union attitude and then post your reply.. arrogant

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    Quote Originally Posted by bonaire126 View Post
    Seriously, a "horrific idea"? Besides the fact the the Cape Fear River is already polluted, do you really understand Titan's true impact to our environment...it's minimal. Oh yea, Titan is going to directly and indirectly create jobs, significantly increase our tax base, and dramitically cut the cost of cement for our builders, DOT, etc.
    That's true, but you're gonna dire of mercury poisoning too. Your choice. Plus, a huge portion of our local ecosystem will be lost... loss of jobs and food... indirectly, that is. But it WILL DIRECTLY AND INDIRECTLY POLLUTE.

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    Bonaire126

    Man, everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but it is extremely hard for me to believe that anyone (especially that lives here and enjoys the beauty of our area), could be supportive of Titan Cement. The cement plant is not going to "save" our local economy, but actually do quite the contrary. What is the cost/benefit of the few jobs it may create? Try roughly 2 pounds of emitted mercury for every job created. Also, most of the jobs would probably go to internal transfers anyway, and even if all the jobs were created from our local citizens, it's not worth the impact of 2 pounds of mercury for every job created...What is the cost to the local population? For starters, mercury in their seafood, destruction of wetlands, and the pollution their children are going to have to breathe when they go to recess within 1.6 miles of Titan’s site. There are always biases to whatever side you choose to be on (unfortunately, your side is ill-equipped to study the facts), but the creators of StopTitan.org use real and truthful facts and figures on their site.

    Look at what has been going on with other Titan plants. Such as permit violations at Titan’s Roanoke and Florida plants, and the fact that Titan’s Florida mine just had its mining permit revoked by a federal judge (for the third time), because of threats to Miami’s aquifer.

    It really sickens me to see such ignorance coming from people like Bonaire126. Now please don't get me wrong, you may be a very nice person. However, please get your facts straight and don't believe anything Titan says or puts out - their history of lying and bending the truth is very long my friend. I will put your unwariness aside and ask you to please think before you speak about something you obviously have no real grasp of-or its consequences.

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    How is Titan bad for us?

    I apologize for these two long posts, but this is something everyone that comes on here and believes Titan to be good for us or our economy needs to read!

    Why Titan Is Bad for the NC Coast
    New Hanover County’s air and watershed are already overburdened with pollutants, though few are visible to the naked eye. According to the Environmental Protection Agency’s latest Toxic Release Inventory, which tracks emissions of six major pollutants, New Hanover has the highest emissions of carbon monoxide and chromium compounds of any county in the state; the fifth highest emissions of nitrogen dioxide and sulfur dioxide (prime components of smog and acid rain); and the sixth highest emissions of particulate matter and mercury. A massive cement plant and its associated limestone mine would increase emissions of all of the above, along with other heavy metals and thousands of tons of carbon dioxide, a potent greenhouse gas. Such an industry could potentially make New Hanover County one of the most polluted counties in the state. http://xapps.enr.state.nc.us/aq/Toxi...jsp?ibeam=true

    When the Castle Hayne site was zoned for heavy industry in the early 1970s, it didn’t have a large residential population nearby. More than 8,000 students will attend schools within five miles of Titan’s site. New Hanover Counties newest K-12 campus is only 1.6 miles away. The growing communities of Castle Hayne, Hampstead, Topsail, Porter’s Neck, Ogden, and Leland all lie within ten miles of the proposed plant. The area of greatest contamination is within a 30 mile radius (see “We’re all downwind” on this site), which covers much of New Hanover, Pender, and Brunswick Counties. Tall smokestacks can spread contaminants for as far as 100 miles.
    http://www.corkscrewroad.com/westwin...lanthealth.htm

    With numerous lakes, rivers, creeks, marshes, estuaries, and miles of coastal waters, our area is more vulnerable to mercury pollution than most. We rely on these water bodies for industry, irrigation, recreation, and as nursery areas for commercial and recreational fisheries–the backbone of our tourism industry. Yet many of our water bodies and fish already contain high levels of mercury, prompting recent consumption advisories for many popular fish species. They do not need more.
    http://www.southernenvironment.org/c...y_nc/index.htm

    The main argument New Hanover County commissioners gave for enticing Titan to our area was economic – 160 new jobs and $450 million in infrastructure investment. But according to an experts at UNCW, the model used for estimating such benefits was critically flawed. In fact, actual studies of southern cities where new low-tech industries located show they typically reduce long-term net economic activity and jobs due to increasing input costs, congestion of local infrastructure, and the perception that an area is favoring dirty heavy industries. Nor did the commissioners consider the negative affect air pollution would have on the real estate or tourism industries, or the increased health care costs due to more asthma, emphysema, and other ailments. (StopTitan.org)

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    ya.... plus say good bye to local oysters / clams if they move in. Dem fukers will be full of lead/mercury ect...

    rather have good oysters than cement.... god knows Wilmington has enough cement already.

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    I dont know enough information about what the environmental impacts would be from Titan, but have you talked to your local surfrider foundation?

    This is one of the primary reasons surfrider exists and they are well seasoned with such issues. They should have lawyers and scientists to consult and evaluate on these topics.