Had 2: The quad fish (still have) is my all time fav board... Works so well in any surf. The other was the shortboard quad. I got that used, and it fealt dead. It looked new at the time, so I don't think it took too long to lose its pop. It seems lots of different people have lots of different experiences with them. I remember someone recently saying the quality has taken a turn for the worse as the factory/ company changed hands/ quality control? (cant confirm this)