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    the govt doesn't give a squat about surfers, but think about the idea that something of an artificial reef type structure built offshore, may actually be an effective way of preventing beach erosion.

    I'm not sure if that was the point jordan was trying to make w/ his original comment, but I think it sounds pretty darn reasonable. In my mind, I can see how, building an offshore structure to break up the surf could be very effective. I'm not sure how, effective, it would really be on the storm surge issue, but either is any other method.

    We already know that beach replenishment, jetties, sea walls, etc.. are only very temporary solutions to the problem...

    Breakwaters are already in place to protect some bay areas. But, if artificial reefs could effectively prevent beach erosion, and provide good surf (not to mention a good habitat for marine life). then hey, bonus all around!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swellinfo View Post
    I think a lot of time with the beach replenishments, the breaks initially are made worse, because there's a lot of loose sand moving around. The loose sand, rather than the solid bottom, is worse for good breaking waves.
    That really makes a lot of sense. I think they need to stop dredging and pumping sand and do something else. Its just a short term repetitive process that keeps the army corps employed and doesnt really do much at all except disrupt the ocean.

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    Fenwick

    I live in fenwick and they replenished the beach two years ago in the fall. When they were in the middle of it there was a big swell and it just went off. And it held up duing the big NE swells to but other than that it sucked. does anyone know where they are planning on replenishing the beach anyway?

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    The end is near!

    September. South Bethany to (north) 5th street in b-town. Waves will suck after that. But like I mentioned earlier, they will be skipping middlesex. That could make things interesting. And by the way. I have been guarding for 12 years at sea colony and we keep a calculated log that shows since the last replenishment, we have dropped our spinal injuries every single year. Last year, constantly surfing the best sand bars that I have ever seen there, we had no major shoulder, head or neck injuries. Summer 08 could be a nightmare for the guards...and surfers!

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    I here ya ob...

    I'd say one of the interesting things about ruining one beach with sand, is the affects that happens to the surround beaches as the longshore current brings new sand to other places...

    i'd say overall, coastal engineering is responsible for destroying some breaks, and also creating some good ones. Take our inlets for example... Or the wedge in newport!

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    I am not pro or con!

    I think that they have to dredge it. I was talking to a friend who works for the core and hes says that the reef idea has been proposed 30 years ago. The problem is we don't have the kind of bottom needed to keeps its exsistence. Basically, a hurrincane or nor easter could wipe it away easily from what he was saying. We just do not have any structure to keep it stable out there. And, some one had mentioned that beach replenishment was more expensive. This particulare prject if one of the biggest ever chashing out the tax payers just over 11 million dollars. The artificail reefs that people want to see may not even be possible. The stretch of coast we call the bethany area would see a 3-4 mile reef costing upwards of a 100 million. That is a big step that tax payers in a lil town would not vote in. Maybee in atlantic city the money could work, but not in bethany. Whatever, we will still surf. I bet north oc will come back to life. Maybe some epic secret spot?

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    Quote Originally Posted by OBlove View Post
    I think that they have to dredge it. I was talking to a friend who works for the core and hes says that the reef idea has been proposed 30 years ago. The problem is we don't have the kind of bottom needed to keeps its exsistence. Basically, a hurrincane or nor easter could wipe it away easily from what he was saying. We just do not have any structure to keep it stable out there.
    makes sense...

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    Actually I have read and heard about some interesting and cheap technologies emerging for reef building - involving pumping sand into giant sandbags and placing the bags strategically. Could potentially work well for east coast beaches to create some structure. If I find the links again I will post them.

    Paul

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    Artificial Reefs

    I wonder how much that reef project would cost, and where it would go. Also, I have heard that they were thinking about putting sand bags out in the water and that could potentially work too.