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  1. #31
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    Quote Originally Posted by snowbird View Post
    My friend and I got out to Gunnison's little before 6:00 am and no one was out and it was peeling nice about head high. Nothing you haven't seen before size-wise. There was a lot of water moving around though for sure.

    I made it into the park before anyone was at the front gates so no one was there to stop me. Apparently, two other guys made it through as well because they showed up on Gunni beach and paddled out just before we were ready to go grab the boards from the car. Then, the MAN showed up in the green and white 4X4 and told the guys to get out of the water under threat of arrest. Interestingly, my friend who was there is a Star Ledger reporter and had his vid cam to do a story on the fly about the waves. He managed to catch the whole ordeal. Check it:

    http://videos.nj.com/star-ledger/200..._sandy_ho.html
    Great video!!!

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    I have to agree here, but I know it'll never be that way (especially in NJ)
    thats it in a nutshell - you take your chances and figure it out on your own is the best scenario but of course then you have to face reality. I didn't create the situation of 200 miles of coast accessible to 25 million people in the most densely populated state in the country, I just exist in it and deal with it best I can like everyone else.

    SH is a different case than most other breaks in NJ, for reasons I already pointed out

    and yeah, my job i.e. putting food on the table and taking care of my family, is more important to me than your desire to surf a certain place, if thats seen as selfish to you than yeah somehow I think I can manage to live with that

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    Quote Originally Posted by dave View Post
    thats it in a nutshell - you take your chances and figure it out on your own is the best scenario but of course then you have to face reality. I didn't create the situation of 200 miles of coast accessible to 25 million people in the most densely populated state in the country, I just exist in it and deal with it best I can like everyone else.

    SH is a different case than most other breaks in NJ, for reasons I already pointed out

    and yeah, my job i.e. putting food on the table and taking care of my family, is more important to me than your desire to surf a certain place, if thats seen as selfish to you than yeah somehow I think I can manage to live with that
    And in your defense, because I'm not here to take sides, you're just enforcing the rules - you didn't make them. My dad was a cop so I know how the middle men can get dumped on for doing their jobs. I just think people need to live and let live, but in NJ the goverment needs to make money on or control every aspect of "living".

  4. #34
    Just to clarify things, nobody is blaming the Rangers, it's the policy they are enforcing we are complaining about.
    Second, it's kind of discouraging to hear a surfer like you Dave agreeing with that policy. Sandy Hook is no different than other places in the country, or the world.
    Trust me, no place has bigger waves in a more densely populated beach than in So. Cal., and they manage to do it, and they manage to do it without beach tags.
    Your reasons are wearing out. You must face it, you live in a state with closed minded people in charge who refuse to look elsewhere for possible answers to their problems.
    It's nothing personal Dave, I hope we agree we are having a discussion over two different ideas, not fighting each other.

  5. #35
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    quote - "SH is a different case than most other breaks in NJ, for reasons I already pointed out"

    In this entire thread, i cant find a single explanation as to why SH, as opposed to all of the other spots in jerz, warranted being closed to surfing, while other heavier spots remained open.

  6. Man, you guys have some issues to work out on the East Coast, eh?
    Boy we sure pay out the azzz in taxes, but at least we can be trusted to surf waves at our own discretion.

    Buds & big waves are frowned upon over there... too funny. Sorry, I mean "sad".

    Man it must be tough to be a surfer on the east side. I'm sorry to read this guys.

    It is pretty nice that the government is there to protect you from yourself. Nothing better than some nice governemental intrusion keeping you from harm.
    Personally, I think that seat belt laws, helmet laws, drug laws, prostitution laws, and any and all "idiot proofing" laws that are out there on the books should be abolished. It is weakening our species as a whole. We are keeping stupid people alive and breading. If somebody wants to ride their bike with no helmet, no problem. If we have done 1000+ studies showing how wearing a seat belt increases your odds of walking away from an accident by a huge amount and you still don't want to wear one, why should the government have to tell you to wear one? Shoots, we use to just call that being ignorant or stupid. Now it's called illegal.

    Ridicules. I will now step down off my soap box. Thank you for your time.

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    If somebody wants to ride their bike with no helmet, no problem
    sure, hey no problem -- until they wipe out, get permanent brain damage to the point where they can't take care of themselves, and then become nothing but a burden to the hardworking taxpayer for the next 35 years

  8. Quote Originally Posted by dave View Post
    sure, hey no problem -- until they wipe out, get permanent brain damage to the point where they can't take care of themselves, and then become nothing but a burden to the hardworking taxpayer for the next 35 years
    My point exactly. That person on the bike knew that it was a risk. That's who should be responsible. NOT the taxpayers. If I tell you the fire is hot and you jump in it, should we have to pay for your medical bills? If we tell you "hey, if you don't wear a helmet because if you crash you can die or be a veggie" how is that different?

    I'm not attacking your job, I'm attacking governmental intrusion in our day to day life where we rely on the governement to tell us what is safe and what isn't to the point we depend on it.

    Our species is getting dumber because of it.

  9. #39
    why post about the hook? now you're going to draw a crowd.

    nice job naming beach breaks

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    Quote Originally Posted by mofosurfer.com View Post
    Our species is getting dumber because of it.
    I completely agree!