ok,i need some opinions from fellow bodyboarders out there. i am currently riding a BZ double platinum with a bat-tail.this is my 1st bat-tail board. i know they're faster than crescent tail boards,but i really didn't notice the difference till this years 1st hurricane (bill) came through. the conditions at our beach were head high to overhead right & left barrels with very steep faces.we almost never have conditions this perfect here.what i was noticing was when i would drop in the board had tremendous speed & i had a difficult time getting the board ledged up in the face to get in a more perfect position for a good barrel ride.i did get good rides all day,but i never noticed the speed of the bat-tail boards till this day & i thought i had more trouble than i should gettin it ledged up in the face.what are you guys' thoughts on this? do you keep a crescent tail board for big,fast conditions like this? do you have 1 of each design for differing conditions or do you pick 1 & master the needs of that particular design? my friend got a new board 1 week before this hurricane too.it was also his 1st bat-tail (custom x big mac) & he also said he noticed the speed of the bat-tail catching him off guard too.what do you guys think? i'm thinking of getting a new board soon & i was considering a MIke Stewart MS1 LTD.but maybe i should go for the Mike Stewart TR LTD (Tom Robinson) cause it has a crescent tail instead
yeah,i just didn't know if i just need to get used to the board in big surf.we don't usually get consistent head high to well overhead days.i was also thinking maybe my fins were an issue.i ride Hydro Tech2's & they feel all big & chunky on my feet,not very agile.when i used to ride Churchills,i seem to remember being able to control things more,like using the blades to get up on the ledge in the wave right were i wanted.i'm really starting to not like these Tech2's at all,i remember Churchills being so much better in the water for power & control.
TR hands down. Dont get the LTD though...get the relugar version, those compression cell things are gimmics. The TR has such a sick shape. I ride a custom with similar dimensions as the TR with Vipers (Summer) and Churhills (Winter). Wouldve gotten the TR but i wanted something more then 1 stringer (like stiff boards). I love the crescent on small waves. I used to ride an MS3 bat, but the new ride it amazing
yeah,i do like that TR,but those compression cells are gimmicks eh? yeah,i hate to pay like another 50-100 bucks for those,maybe i'll just get the standard model them.i did also like the clear deck on that LTD though.what do you guys think of the decking on those Mike Stewarts that claim to be rough & not require alot of wax? are they just bull too?
BZ Double Platinum was one of the 1st that I ever had. I rode it during Ernesto and I could not hold the edge, ended up sliding out to the flat section a few times. Does yours have channels? Mine did not have any and I credit that much to sliding out and not being able to hold the edge. I've since upgraded to the MS5 with a massive crescent tail and that has seemed to fix that problem for me. Bill and Danny were amazing and I had the best rides of my year during those times, on my MS5.
Just like stand-ups, it is good to have a few boards for different conditions. When it is big, I want speed, but I really want control. When it is smaller, I still want speed, but I want maneuverability. My BZ D-P has seen better days and has really taken a beating, and is just too small for me now, and not enough buoyancy.
I tried to take the MS out the 1st day I got it without wax, and I slid right off immediately, so wax is a must.
yes! thank you ECSPONGER,this is exactly what i experienced on my BZ double p.mine is an older model & has no channels.that's exactly it,on those huge steep faces i had lots & lots of speed,but coudn't hold an edge & ate it hard a few times cause of that.i was wondering if it was just me or others had this issue too.seems like i'll get another board for those huge wave days.
This was taken from a post by I believe Bob Baldwin of Atlantic Bodyboards from ecbb.com...
"Generally speaking, a crescent tail will hold a bit better, offerring more bite in the barrell and in scooping a good bottom turn, cutbacks, turns. Also preferred for DK riders.
A Bat tail is a bit looser, since the tail offers a greater planing surface keeping a bit more of the board out of the water, preferred for in the pocket spins, airs, etc.
These are generalities though - some dk guys prefer bats, some guys bust huge airs and in spin fine with crescents.
There seems to be more of a trend towards crescents, especially amongst pro riders, but again, bats are very popular too. Its all personal preference. Personally I like crescent tails. Hope this helps a bit"
i'm beggining to think that my problem is with this particular BZ model.especially after i read EcSponger's post about his experience with this same model.upon thinking back,this board has not held an edge even on some waste high & smaller waves i've ridden.i can recal SEVERAL time leaning way to the side to just try to keep the board were i wanted it & still having it slide out froim under me.sometimes i was leaning so far that others noticed & wanted to know why i was riding so distorted on the board.i have lost complete confidence in this model BZ & will definately not take it out in big surf again cause i can't depend on it holding an edge & eatin it over & over in big surf gets old quick in a session