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    Hahah, that's cool. Wasn't intended to be a debate or get out of hand.


    Cheers!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ughVeeBee View Post
    Bingo. If MJ were totally legal and the general public were allowed to see thru the lies they'd have no reason to buy the pharmaceutical industry's poison. Plain and simple. And the only reason they don't adopt a marijuana-based medicinal model and mass-produce it is because it just grows in the dirt and it's too easy for anyone to do it themselves. My brother's father-in-law works for Bayer, he says that marijuana awareness is a huge threat to them.

    My aunt, who actually recently passed on, had several forms of terminal cancer. She used all of the prescribed pain relief from her doctors and none of them really helped the pain and nausea. She went to Cabo (her husband was quite lucky financially) and spent a good part of the remainder of her life smoking bud, and this was the only relief she had during this horrible part of her life.
    And it all goes back to the government are ****ing scumbags! It's about money and not health.

    They say there are cures for cancer and aids out there but won't let them out because of the threat to all the pharmaceutical companies and harmful drugs they give. Just heard that, no facts to actually back that up.

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    At least reefer isn't packed full of chemicals that humans put into them - not the stuff that I grow/buy. Humanity is the poison. It's not the reefer - stop hating on God's given plant.
    At one point when it does become legal (because I believe we're not too far away from that) there's gonna have to be quality control checking because you know some asshole will start putting some junk into their weed to alter it.

  4. BTW people, if you are against legalizing it, take a look at who your fellow supporters are. Religious zealots and those that have bought the “War on Drugs” thing that Nixon started 50+ years ago.
    Do you know which lobbyists are keeping bud illegal? The alcohol industry, the pharmaceutical industry, the cotton industry, and the paper industry. Did you know that it was Hearst, who made his wealth in the paper industry, who popularized the term “marijuana” and he did it to help demonize the plant that produces hemp. You see, hemp was a major threat to the paper industry. I lasts longer, it prints and reads better, and recycles easier. It was a MAJOR threat to Hearst. So, he had deep pockets. I mean, he was a multi millionaire when that was still a rarity. He also had major connections. He was a major force behind the demonization of marijuana not out of fear of people smoking it, he just knew that it would force the illegalization of it. Once it was demonized it became illegal to grow, including the non-inhalable type plants known as hemp. The same plant that most of our countries forefathers grew on their farms, the same plant that was promoted during World War I (there were “Grow Hemp for Victory” posters that proclaimed this, Google it if you don’t believe me).
    Hearst won. He helped create the fear of black jazz players and Mexican immigrants all smoke marijuana and how when they got high they would all rape your white wives and children. He created a hysteria that has lasted to this day, not only that, but he used his OWN NEWSPAPER to help flame the hysteria. In fact, that's where the term "Yellow Journalism" comes from. His competition was beat down and made illegal to grow. So his deep pockets affected our personal freedoms. Good job Hearst. I think he made his money and can leave now. Time to make things right again. Say no to the alcohol industry, the pharmaceutical industry, the cotton industry, and the paper industry and stand up for yourself. Don’t be lazy, do some research on your own, don’t believe the rhetoric that these companies produce about the legalization of their biggest competitor. They are paying big, big dollars to lobbyists in Washington to keep things the way they are. Fight it people. Don’t listen to the empty rhetoric of these industries that only want to keep it illegal because it only affects their bottom line. They don’t really care about you or your personal freedoms, only their bottom line.
    Also, don’t give me that “what if our kids smoke” thing. If you have children that are toking out in the garage it’s not the inanimate greens that caused this, it was bad parenting. I love it when parents blame alcohol or weed when they bust their kids. The weed or bottle didn’t jump in their hands, it was your bad parenting that did that. Talk to your kids. Don’t scare them with empty rhetoric. If you lie to them and tell them that weed is the devil, they toke, realize that it didn’t kill them and that their parents were bs’ing them, they will wonder what else you lied about. Be honest. Do research. Don’t be a sheep.

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    1 simple fact/truth: those that want it, will get it.

    I doubt you would see an increase in users if it was made legal.

  6. #56
    Quote Originally Posted by mofosurfer.com View Post
    Say no to the alcohol industry
    ...Let's not get carried away now

    But right on, there is so much behind all of this which only serves to compound the folly of why it's illegal.

    The biggest joke is how they use "protecting the kids" to keep it down. I'd like to see a statistic of how many people in total have lost their lives related to drug wars, cartels, etc. -- basically any death not related to it's use but rather than death related to simply the fact that it's illegal. I'm sure there are hundreds of youths losing their lives each year just related to the fact that it's illegal, as opposed to the zero that die each year from using it. Such a joke.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mofosurfer.com View Post
    BTW people, if you are against legalizing it, take a look at who your fellow supporters are. Religious zealots and those that have bought the “War on Drugs” thing that Nixon started 50+ years ago.
    Do you know which lobbyists are keeping bud illegal? The alcohol industry, the pharmaceutical industry, the cotton industry, and the paper industry. Did you know that it was Hearst, who made his wealth in the paper industry, who popularized the term “marijuana” and he did it to help demonize the plant that produces hemp. You see, hemp was a major threat to the paper industry. I lasts longer, it prints and reads better, and recycles easier. It was a MAJOR threat to Hearst. So, he had deep pockets. I mean, he was a multi millionaire when that was still a rarity. He also had major connections. He was a major force behind the demonization of marijuana not out of fear of people smoking it, he just knew that it would force the illegalization of it. Once it was demonized it became illegal to grow, including the non-inhalable type plants known as hemp. The same plant that most of our countries forefathers grew on their farms, the same plant that was promoted during World War I (there were “Grow Hemp for Victory” posters that proclaimed this, Google it if you don’t believe me).
    Hearst won. He helped create the fear of black jazz players and Mexican immigrants all smoke marijuana and how when they got high they would all rape your white wives and children. He created a hysteria that has lasted to this day, not only that, but he used his OWN NEWSPAPER to help flame the hysteria. In fact, that's where the term "Yellow Journalism" comes from. His competition was beat down and made illegal to grow. So his deep pockets affected our personal freedoms. Good job Hearst. I think he made his money and can leave now. Time to make things right again. Say no to the alcohol industry, the pharmaceutical industry, the cotton industry, and the paper industry and stand up for yourself. Don’t be lazy, do some research on your own, don’t believe the rhetoric that these companies produce about the legalization of their biggest competitor. They are paying big, big dollars to lobbyists in Washington to keep things the way they are. Fight it people. Don’t listen to the empty rhetoric of these industries that only want to keep it illegal because it only affects their bottom line. They don’t really care about you or your personal freedoms, only their bottom line.
    Also, don’t give me that “what if our kids smoke” thing. If you have children that are toking out in the garage it’s not the inanimate greens that caused this, it was bad parenting. I love it when parents blame alcohol or weed when they bust their kids. The weed or bottle didn’t jump in their hands, it was your bad parenting that did that. Talk to your kids. Don’t scare them with empty rhetoric. If you lie to them and tell them that weed is the devil, they toke, realize that it didn’t kill them and that their parents were bs’ing them, they will wonder what else you lied about. Be honest. Do research. Don’t be a sheep.

    Thank you. Government and politics can suck a big fat cockadoodle.

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    i think medical marijuana should be legal. It makes you feel better, and seems to have less side effects than a lot of the pain medication and anti depressants out there. For some individuals, who are pone to addiction and other potential side effects, then it may not warrant their use, but that is the same with all drugs out there.

    i am undecided about making street marijuana legal, but it does seem to be costing our country a lot of money making it illegal. So much effort is required to police it, and our jails are jammed with people breaking marijuana laws.

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    dont make it street legal. Make possesion a huge fine. Like in CA. allow legal purchasing by licensed individuals.

    And here is another of my observations.

    Everyone I know back in Baltimore and OC MD all smoke weed. Everytime I touch down in that state, every person I know has a dutch master rolled full of schwag....

    And in California, most people dont smoke. They can, but they dont. Its funny that way that all my friends in CA just drink, but everyonee I know back in the communist state of MD is a pot head....

    If people like it, they will do it. The state can make money off large fines, but street level drug wars and locking up every 16 year old that you pull over is ruining a lot of young peoples lives. It ridiculous. No one wins.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zach619 View Post
    dont make it street legal. Make possesion a huge fine. Like in CA. allow legal purchasing by licensed individuals.

    And here is another of my observations.

    Everyone I know back in Baltimore and OC MD all smoke weed. Everytime I touch down in that state, every person I know has a dutch master rolled full of schwag....

    And in California, most people dont smoke. They can, but they dont. Its funny that way that all my friends in CA just drink, but everyonee I know back in the communist state of MD is a pot head....

    If people like it, they will do it. The state can make money off large fines, but street level drug wars and locking up every 16 year old that you pull over is ruining a lot of young peoples lives. It ridiculous. No one wins.
    Maybe we should dethrone our government and all of us run sh*t!