When i'm paddling into a wave, what's the best way to kick with my feet? I've seen guys doing really big kicks, and some that do little ones. both ways get them into the wave, and i can't figure it out
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Mar 10, 2010, 09:33 PM #1
In my opinion, the foot kicking thing is just a reaction. Like swinging your arms when you walk. I don't see any benefit to it for paddling/catching waves. I concentrate all on my upper body for paddling. I guess occasionally I'll kick for an extra boost, but I don't know how much it does.
Last edited by stoneybaloney; Mar 10, 2010 at 09:42 PM.
kicking your feet is totally pointless... i guess stoneybaloney's right about the arm swinging while walking.. for me kicking makes me feel like im paddling faster into a wave, but once i tried to paddle with my feet only on my board, and i barely went anywhere, but i cant stop kicking, its like, natural for me i guess
Mar 10, 2010, 09:58 PM #4Member
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If you want to see what kicking your feet does for you try it in flat water without any paddling. You can see for yourself what it can or cannot do for you.
I ride with a buddy who kicks viciously sometimes (I mean I do to, but I'm a bodyboarder) and i tell him, dude I don't think it helps any. I'd say try to focus your strength to your upper body for deeper strokes so you can pick up the wave quicker. The opposite goes for bodyboarding. I don't paddle with both hands and kick at the same time. I use one hand for that last stroke and then set my hips and grip, and settle into the line. Just an observation.
Mar 11, 2010, 01:01 AM #6
for shortboarders, kicking does jack.
it looks hideous (yes, i'm aware surfing isn't a fashion show...still, aesthetics are important to me. tom curren=good surfer. spazmo your local kook=not a good surfer. BIG difference in style).
if you kick too much, it can actually have a detrimental effect on your wave catching ability.
i have unfortunately picked this habit it somwhere along the way. i hate it, but haven't been able to stop.
that said, i do believe that kicking your legs when paddling a longboard can have a beneficial effect. i did some experiments when i was doing a lot of prone paddleboarding & found that i could get more glide out of my strokes if i kicked my legs while i pulled. the key was to keep things alternating (ie: left hand/right leg).
& obviously, if you're bodyboarding or kneeboarding, you need to kick your ass off to get into the wave. hence the flippers.
Mar 11, 2010, 01:27 AM #7
I have been taught since i was 12 years old to not kick, the older locals prohibited me for doing so, in lack of style and stability. If your to think of it this way, if you on your board paddling for a wave and you kick, then your putting pressure on the back of your board causing you to actually to slow down, like a stall. They always stressed on me that all paddling is, is core strength. Now depending on type of wave, for instance i never kick in the summer for the simple fact that there is no reason to, but the only time i ever do kick is when im hung up at the lip and its my final desperation. It always looks a lot cooler if you don't kick, and if you haven't noticed; all the kooks on the 6'7s kick like there on fire....and you never see them get into any waves.
Mar 11, 2010, 01:28 AM #8Junior Member
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a lot of pro surfers kick so i dunno what that one guy was talkin about.....
Mar 11, 2010, 01:40 AM #9Senior Member
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You cant argue that kicking is bologna by doing it in flat water and seeing if you go anywhere (which you won't), because when paddling for a wave, especially of the hollow type, the wave face is building up so your legs end up more submerged in the water, at least for those crucial moments just before the board begins to plane down the wave face. I don't think kicking really helps because it doesn't displaced enough water. And when your body is in a prone position, it's more easy to get deep strokes when your legs aren't spazzing out behind you. Plus, it's been said that you actually paddle faster when you're taking relaxed strokes, and not kicking keeps the body way more relaxed. That's why pro surfers make catching hollow waves look so easy, they know they need to stay relaxed to keep efficient strokes. I could almost go as far as saying that you might paddle faster in you "just paddling," than your "oh crap, I better get over that bomb set" mode.