dear ec sponger,
tell it to the locals there.
let 'em close your beach.
God gave us dominion,and we ain't hurtin' any turtles or some bird that don't wanna be there in the first place.
go eat a piping plover.
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Thread: Save cape hatteras
Apr 7, 2010, 05:59 PM #11Senior Member
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Apr 7, 2010, 06:21 PM #12
There is a large area north of Rodanthe set-aside for that purpose called Pea Island National Wildlife Refuge ("Pristine Beach - Pea Island offers almost thirteen miles of beautiful, barrier island beach, undisturbed by vehicles. Many visitors seek the peace and solitude of the refuge beach, choosing to walk the extra distance for the quiet and less-crowded conditions. Shelling, beachcombing, and just strolling along the shoreline are popular activities.").
In the establishment of CHNS, it was deemed that certain lands on the Outer Banks of North Carolina be "administered, protected, and developed by the National Park Service for national seashore recreational purposes for the benefit and enjoyment of the people.”
There are NOT plenty of other places to go to unless you like small crumbly waves with on-shore winds during a north wind/south swell event. There is nothing more enjoying than southerly swells producing waves groomed by offshore winds as you watch the sun set into the sea.
Apr 7, 2010, 07:37 PM #13
the problem isn't the AMOUNT of beach closed, it's the fact that there are open areas that you can't even get to b/c it's surrounded by closed areas. so even if only 10 miles is actually closed, the area that is inaccessible might be double or triple that, depending on where the closed areas are located. for a while, the actual cape point was inaccessible, not b/c there were plover nests there, but b/c there were nests to the north & the south, which closed off access.
It's not even 10 total miles in conjunction, it's portions here and there, around inlets and around stretches that are outside of towns. Pea Island isn't even touched or concerned with in the recent closure. Did you guys look at the map? Why not just go to some other beach for a month or so? Where do you absolutely need to get to that you have to drive so far out of the way? There's still plenty of ramps to find.
"We recommend managing access of these areas through a combination of permitting, limiting the number of vehicles, and closures when necessary to protect the migratory species that use this area seasonally." - The Outer Banks Chapter of Surfrider Foundation
Apr 7, 2010, 10:03 PM #15
As a longtime SF member I was very disappointed by the position taken and their statement of policy in the lawsuit. SF used to be all about access to the waves and representing the waveriding community. Now it is drowning in a membership of so-called environmentalists where the mantra appears to be little birdies first, surfriders second.
ECsponger, I am sorry to say that you do not really share the knowledge and understanding of riding the waves in the Outer Banks. It is much more than S-Turns, The Lighthouse and Frisco Pier.
Apr 7, 2010, 10:19 PM #16Junior Member
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Ecsponger read up on it then let us know what you think....
They want to shut more than 10 miles or so, those parts just have not been closed yet because they shut them down seasonally
Apr 7, 2010, 10:45 PM #17Senior Member
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don't start preaching your anti-God,anti-human self-righteous religion to me.
Everything has everything to do with God,and He gave us dominion,and if you are from ocmd you would know that the people of Hatteras are the best stewards of the Earth there are.
Apr 7, 2010, 10:53 PM #18Member
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Apr 7, 2010, 11:14 PM #19
The bottom line is: Common sense isn't so common, so every once in awhile, some overcompensation has to take place in regards to our impact on nature. Unfortunately, there are some environmental extremists that fund sub-human life forms called environmental attorneys. When these kind combine, they are far more self-serving than any 4-wheel driver that's ever driven over a turtle nest. They create presidences that result in indefinately cutting people off from nature.
When I was younger, people who actually cared about things like nesting turtles stood watch over the nesting sites. No press. No protests. Just productive action. I was always impressed for this truly selfless act. It doesn't provide satisfaction to the attention-needing, over-the-top protesting types, though. It just gets the job done.
I'm as anti-government as it gets, but protecting our natural areas, whether it be a 'wildlife reserve' or a 'national park' makes a WHOLE lot more sense than protecting the interests of people who wish to use them for their own consideration, and explicitly just for that.
What ever happened to caring for needs other than your own?
I watched your videos, Crumolator. (By the way, thanks for telling me I "can suck-it") Mr. Ryan Dawson looks very impromptu in his word-for-word reading to officials, slouched over the podium and under-dressed. Why take that so seriously? Mrs. Carol Dillon, with all due respect, seems to worry more about her pets (who are technically invasive species) than the overall wellbeing of the original natural inhabitants.
My guess is you guys who oppose my opinion are all-for this proposition for offshore drilling too, huh? Need more gas for your off-road 4x4 SUVs? I wonder how their economy and tourist attraction will fare if a catastrophic oil spill calamity washes up on their beaches (as well as yours) I guess you won't have to worry about the plover anymore if that happens.