I don't get pissed at either, but in both cases I'll definately take more waves than usual. The only thing I do differently for newbies is give them a few tips and be friendly to them. Who knows, it's the newbies that usually end up being the good surfers. I'll crowd around a kook and keep him as uncomfortable as possible.
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Thread: Newbies in the lineup
i really hate that *** kooks that always mess u up on a wave, i try to judge weather they will even catch it to drop in onme and most of the time ill go cause i know they wont.
what i cant stand is when u have the inside, they paddle(on surfboard) to drop in on you, catch the wave and i backout, but they dont even drop it, just stand at the top fall backwards and are right back waiting for the next set so they can c0ck block my gnarection again. And they think there the **** still cause there on a surfboard. at least most of the bodyboarders will catch it and ride it. but the surfers, if ur gonna do that, get out of the water. ur just a hazard everyone out there. There are some surfers that im fine with tho, the ones that are actually good and respect the rule that the person on the inside gets the wave. But even that rule sucks for the surfer kooks too cause the paddle for a wave that hey wont get out of but im in a better spot farther down on the wave.
Jul 20, 2010, 06:06 PM #13
Jul 21, 2010, 04:04 AM #14
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- North Wildwood ,Nj
I notice alot of people who sit inside right before where the waves breaks and they hop on there boards infront of me and do like 3 pumps and fall over. Or there are the ones who think they know it all cause there folk bought them the latest CI or Lost and they try to start paddling for a wave you are already on and they are in the white water well behind you and they hollar at you like you just dropen in on them . That happend to me once this weekend I was already on the wave did my bottom turn and trimed up to the top of the wave and was on the nose and so kid was in the foam behind me yellin at Me. So after I heard that a walked back the the tail stalled and turned outa the wave. The kids said the me , "Yo WTF you dropin in on me for " . I told him if he was paying attention and knew anything about surfing you would have seen that 1 was already up and on the wave while you were still paddleing and 2 that you were in the foam and I was at the peak postion. He did that to 2 other people that day and he got worked hard by some guy on a Keel fin Fish . I guess dome people just dont learn
I dont get all agro or my attitude doesnt change when it crowded or there are alot of there newbs or "kooks" in the water. If you get all hostle or worried about stuff like that your kinda missing out on what surfing is all about
I feel as though i surf better when I am surrounded by noobs. If it is crowded with legit surfers and noobs, then I get ancy, frustrated, and agressive. It's an oil water mix which leads to frustration. If you get a noob dropping in and call them off, usually they then realize to look side to side before they take off the next time. It's all a learning process. I also don't get super mad because I was a noob at one point and so was everyone else. It just needs to be a quick learning noob with common sense...( why would I take off on this wave if there's someone already on it...ect. ha)
If a noob takes a wave and has the right of way, I will let him have it because it teaches him the rule and respect. Plus, on that wave he may finally realize how to do a bottom turn or his first cut back.
Jul 21, 2010, 11:47 AM #16Senior Member
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- MB 07750
not like I rip or anything but after 25 years I know what I'm doing. When the lineup is packed with learners/beginners usually its because the waves are not what you would call exceptional so I'm always calling people into waves, backing off, etc. When its epic 2-3x a year and my break gets packed with the best surfers in the state, I get called into waves by surfers much better than me, so I act the same. I'm very, very easygoing with teenagers and women, way less so with typical "35 year old men learning on longboards" you see more and more.
I was out with some kooks and some newbies yesterday. This 2 guys kept dropping in on me and messing up my waves. So I just burned them a couple times. Then another kid dropped in on me but i knew that he was new so I just told him what he did and he didn't drop in on anybody anymore (except for one of his friends). After that i was calling him into waves and cheering him on whenever he had the peak on a set. But even with the waves I called him into, I still got a lot more waves than usual.
Jul 21, 2010, 04:09 PM #18Member
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maybe they don't know any better...
some guys are jackasses, but some are just ignorant. it's hard to make a jackass understand that he's a jackass, and even harder for him to stop being one even if he realizes that he is one. but some guy who just bought a board and is out there trying to figure it all out, floundering around and getting in the way, probably doesn't even know that he's doing something wrong.
so it's not that he's selfish or intending to screw up others' times out there, he just doesn't realize what the rules are, where he's supposed to be/not be, what waves he paddle for/let go. sadly, because most people are non-confrontational and don't really want to take the time to get involved, these guys who don't know any better will continue to get in the way, drop in on others, miss waves and paddle out right through you line until and unless someone explains to them (kindly and pleasantly the first time, at least) that what they did isn't really the way things are supposed to work out there. when i started, i would try to be as deferential to the guys tearing it up, and thankfully some of them explained a few things to me here and there, preventing me from being a nuisance everytime i paddled out. a few kind words can go a long way; not just towards keeping the energy and feelings positive, but maybe even more importantly, to teaching new guys (whether they're 13, 35 or 50) what's expected of them, and how to avoid having the others groan everytime they see you getting in the water.
Jul 21, 2010, 04:26 PM #19
agreed. it's when you try to nicely help somebody and then they get ignorant that the bad stuff happens.
Summer = newbs in the lineup
My general stance is, if they can catch the waves then I won't drop in on them. If they're going to miss the wave or ride it straight in, I'll take it all day. Since we're not talking kooks here, I won't mention all the jacka$$es that have been dropping in like its nothing lately.