@divinesurf... Def was using kook loosely. I understand that they are experienced surfers. I was just surprised with their etiquette. I would think that being surfers for so long that they grew up and surfed in a much different layed back era of surfing.
I agree with all of you guys. I never wrote this post slamming people out in the water. I understand that being a noob I need to earn my respect in the water and learn how to get out of the way. I don't want to ruin someone's ride at all. This post was more or less asking for a good spot to learn so that I DON'T ruin more advanced surfers waves and etc. Sorry if the term "kook" offended anyone.
No worries. Like I said most the people who surf belmar 18/19 ave are kooks. Trust me.
I think the issue is with your thinking. Surfing really isn't this laid back, hippy sport where everybody gets along. It's ultra competitive and aggressive especially among the top tier guys. Compound that with summer crowds, so when a little swell finally comes up, the locals are going to get as many as they can.
In the winter it does mellow out but summer brings out the worse in everybody in the water.
Yeah I have to agree summer brings the worst out in everyone. I am one of the most laid back guys in the world I think and there are someday where I almost lash out on some young punks who thinks he is the latest and greatest thing. Or there are them people who bring there buddies surfing and tell them to paddle into a wave you are already on .
Originally Posted by aka pumpmaster
sorry. i had to laugh when i read your last post. in the early 80s when I started the vibe was ANYTHING but laid back. It was WAY more aggro then then now.
Yes it was more Aggro back in the 80's and mid 90's. I rember seeing guys cars getting trashed and people getting massive beat downs for flapping the lips at the worng person
Definitely never said it was a hippy sport. Hahah. This thread could go on forever with views of what surfing is and isn't... I appreciate all the insight. I will definitely take a lot of the advice here (ie, stay closer to shore, let the vets take the big ones, etc). Thanks, guys!
This is such outdated thinking. Why let the vets take all the big waves? How do you learn that way
I went out in Belmar today (19th Ave) after looking at Surfline's forecast and shared the waves with about 40+ surfers. I'm a newbie, so I spend most of the time having waves pass me by... but there were a LOT of rude surfers (mostly much older men) on the waves today. A lot of people cutting people off and etc. I had to bail on 2 waves today because of people snaking them. Kinda annoying because it takes me a lot more time and effort to catch them than most surfers out in the water. I was really surprised because I've surfed other spots along the Shore and people have been more courteous and accepting of newbies.
Does anyone have any suggestions for spots to go where I can learn without having to worry about getting cut off nonstop?
Start going out first thing in the morning.
Search for spots and not on the internet.
There is a reason why you are getting cut off, watch more and learn more.
True... 80s were hardcore, but these 40 and 50 year old men grew up in the 60s and 70s when surfing was different. I'm only comparing them to my friends father who also surfs and was out there on Saturday. He even felt like the older men were being really ridiculous... just greedy and totally aggressive to the point that people paddled away from them because they rode every single wave no matter what. I mean good for them to be able to catch wave after wave but I know it annoyed a lot of surfers out there on Saturday.
We were all stoned and friends on the beach, but in the water back in the 70's you had to literally fight your way to the peak. Not any more. You just have to show respect, put in your time, and develop your skills. It wasn't all peace and love at 1st peak, not by a long shot. I am not condoning thuggish behavior. I am suggesting you get real good before you decide to go to 1st peak anywhere USA and decide to take off. In the mean time, there are lots of other waves to be had...go get some and have fun! Don't let the bastards bring you down.
Here's an easy tip to help get along. If you get in somebody's way - just acknowledge that you f'd up and apologize. assuming that you don't do it more than once or twice - it will go along way with everyone except for the extreme d-bags. For those guys - all you can do is challenge them to a bench off and shot their piers.
If you are surifng in the summer at a main break, and a good wave comes through, you WILL get cut off. There is no "if" about it. And the worst offenders consistently turn out to be the 50+ guys on longboards, and they also get the most aggressive when they get cut off. The younger guys are overall much more respectful and laid back. What's up with that, old people? Why not hop back in the Grand Marquis, strap the 12' log to the roof and cruise back to your inland suburb at 55 MPH in the passing lane.