What is better Fiberglass or Epoxy and why? I never riden anEpoxy board before.
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Epoxy or Fiberglass
Aug 7, 2010, 09:49 PM #2Member
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depends on your style of surf. epoxy boards have a very stiff feeling. very durable but idk if its me it just doesnt feel right sometimes
Aug 7, 2010, 10:21 PM #3
if you're referring to a tuflite style (as i suspect you are), then i say a traditionally constructed polyurethane foam & fiberglass board is the better call. partly out of ethics (see the thread about pop-outs), but mostly b/c i hate the way those pieces of crap ride...any kind of cross chop on the wave & you get this weird chatter going which, if the chop is bad enough, can turn into a kind of surfy "death wobble". not fun.
the 2nd type of epoxy, the eps foam blank, is hand-shaped in the same manner as a poly blank. the only difference is that the blank is lighter & the epoxy resin is stronger. some say that these boards have more float, but i find that to be largely negligable, so you'll want to keep your usual dims. these are certainly stronger, but like all epoxies, a small pain to repair.
Aug 7, 2010, 11:13 PM #4Senior Member
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njsurfer42 nailed it on the head - not all epoxy boards are created equal...
First let's get some common definitions straight:
All surfboards are made with foam, fiberglass, and resin.
2 main types of foam: Polyurethane and EPS
2 types of resin: Polyester and epoxy
Polyurethane foam is glassed with polyester resin. The tradtional style of surfboards. Little heavy and ding relatively easy.
EPS foam is glasses with Epoxy (polyester will melt eps foam). Light and strong.
"Popouts" are EPS/Epoxy construction but not hand shaped therefore are junk.
Tufflites, Boardworks, NSP, etc are classified as pop-outs coming from Asian factories mostly made buy dudes who've never seen the ocean, let alone have surfed.
Popouts are like ping pong balls on water. No flex, bouncy in chop, and not alive.
Not all boards are created equal: Rusty and Stretch among others are some of the big name shapers who really understand how to design an EPS/epoxy board for high performance.
my 2 cents
Aug 8, 2010, 12:54 AM #6
Here's my biased opinion...
My experience has been a well designed, hand shaped, hand laid-up, EPS/epoxy board will be as high performance as the polyurethane/polyester board, but be slightly lighter and last at least twice as long. Tufflite and other "popouts" might be even more durable, and last even longer, but the performance is compromised significantly.
Early generations of EPS/epoxy boards had issues. Nobody really knew what design adjustments had to be made to compensate for the difference in the physical properties of the materials. Once that happened, things evolved pretty rapidly, and boards improved greatly. Then, along came surfboard specific foams and epoxy resins, and the whole game changed again. Close tolerance, pressure molded blanks, custom rockers and stringers, UV stable resins with very specific flex and strength parameters, and improved workability of those resins lead to a huge leap in EPS/epoxy surfboard performance and durability. Suddenly, we had the best of both worlds... a performance surfboard that was more ding resistant and more snap resistant, that could be custom shaped, and glassed to the user's specifications.
Do they feel EXACTLY like PU/PE? No. Do they look as pretty when tinted, glossed and polished? No. Are they more expensive? Yes. Do you have to be careful about heat extremes? Yes. Are they harder to build and repair? Somewhat.
Do they turn, tuberide, punt, catch waves, and all that other good stuff? Oh... you bet they do.
Thanks for all the input. The reason I brought up the question was that I am looking to purchase a Retro Fish quad and had a choice between fiberglass and epoxy. I never riden an Epoxy before and from the looks of them they looked cheap, plastic like and stiff. Once again thanks for the detailed info. Now I can focus on get some nice waves tomorrow... Bring it on Colin.
i have a hand shaped epoxy it is my favorite board, i ride it better than any other of my boards, but i do agree that the tuflite stuff feels wierd
Aug 8, 2010, 03:24 AM #9
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