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  1. #31
    Quote Originally Posted by yankee View Post
    Unfortunately, my statement IS true Old Boy...with respect, I know of whence I speak. MRSA, if not caught early, is a nasty killer that morphs & can get worse once it is underway. By no means is it a slam dunk for doctors & drugs. There's def already strains of MRSA that are resistant to powerful juice like Vancomyicin.

    I caught MRSA from gym equipment in 2008. Freakn gym equipment....unreal. A boil that got worse & hurt like a witch. Had to get it lanced, tested, then off to the Infectious Disease Clinic. (just the name of the clinic alone....da f**k) Antibiotic pills didn't touch it. They sewed a PIC line into my arm, with the line just cm from my heart, the better to pump drugs into my heart & rapidly out into my bloodstream. 2x per day for 3 weeks I pumped 2 hours worth of Cubicin into my body through that PIC line into my heart.

    I got lucky. Beat it in 3 weeks. My health care provider (awesome) told me some horror stories of fact, though. Like the competitive runner who was in tremendous shape, 30 y.o. got it from a towel in a gym. She was still doing the 2x daily IV drug regimen ONE YEAR later &they couldn't beat this wily evil bacteria. Many other stories of soccer moms, HS kids, pro athletes who no matter what could not shake MRSA.

    So, you're incorrect, amigo. This stuff is nasty & it can def take a person out, any person, even with modern meds.

    If y'all recall, 2 Redskins players caught it. One had to retire, 'cause they cut so much of his foot & calf away in desperate attempts to beat MRSA. And Redskins Park practive facility had to be gutted, costing millions of dollars, 'cause they couldn't cleanse the place of MRSA. It was done quietly, but the Skins had huge problems with MRSA, just as many pro teams have had MRSA issues.

    MRSA & gram negatives are not just hanging around hospitals. They're everywhere that humans are. And that includes the ocean.

    As for gram negatives: evil, evil stuff. Modern meds have only a couple of sketchy, 1940's era drugs in the gun against those nasty critters, and nothing is on the horizon that will be the magic bullet.

    “For Gram-positives we need better drugs; for Gram-negatives we need any drugs,” said Dr. Brad Spellberg, an infectious-disease specialist at Harbor-U.C.L.A. Medical Center in Torrance, Calif., and the author of “Rising Plague,” a book about drug-resistant pathogens. Dr. Spellberg is a consultant to some antibiotics companies and has co-founded two companies working on other anti-infective approaches. Dr. Rice of Cleveland has also been a consultant to some pharmaceutical companies.

    Doctors treating resistant strains of Gram-negative bacteria are often forced to rely on two similar antibiotics developed in the 1940s — colistin and polymyxin B. These drugs were largely abandoned decades ago because they can cause kidney and nerve damage, but because they have not been used much, bacteria have not had much chance to evolve resistance to them yet.

    “In many respects it’s far worse than MRSA,” said Dr. Louis B. Rice, an infectious-disease specialist at the Louis Stokes Cleveland V.A. Medical Center and at Case Western Reserve University. “There are strains out there, and they are becoming more and more common, that are resistant to virtually every antibiotic we have.”

    According to researchers at SUNY Downstate Medical Center, more than 20 percent of the Klebsiella infections in Brooklyn hospitals are now resistant to virtually all modern antibiotics. And those supergerms are now spreading worldwide.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/27/business/27germ.html
    Your absolutely right.

    Most of this antibiotic resistance is caused by feeding livestock antibiotics non stop to make them grow quicker thus exposing bacteria constantly to antibiotics and giving them a chance to adapt to the antibiotics, thus making them resistant. You always hear about over prescription of meds and how people are prescribed antibiotics even when they don't need them. While this is true and a problem, the major cause is livestock. Your talking about billions of animals being given an antibiotic non stop for years. Only a matter of time before resistant strains of bacteria evolve and adapt to the environment. Antibiotics truly are a magic bullet that we basically discovered by accident. Bubonic plague killed half of Europe. You can't begin to imagine how many lives have been saved by antibiotics. It truly is one of the few miracle drugs and unfortunately we are working steadfastly to help make them ineffective by over prescribing them to people and using them in livestock operations. Their use in livestock should be banned immediately. I'm not talking animal rights here. It's about people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by leethestud View Post
    either that or it has gotten comfy and is laying billions of eggs in your BRAIN
    Could be.. but it's more likely that when it got to my brain it starved to death. Ha!

  3. #33

    Filthy

    For the best couple of weeks the water has been the worst I have seen it. Two weeks ago, the white water in deal was brown. Surfed Friday night in LB and Sat morning in Asbury and now have the worst sinus infection. I have been spitting blood from my sinuses for the past week. Stuff is gnarley.

    Fished all day Sunday from the Hook to NYC, the river was filled with trash and what looked like red tide. I havent seen the water this dirty in years.

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    I agree that the water has been pretty dirty. Gosh, I remember the time I had a real bad ear infection because of something that had been in the water. I had this purple goo come out of my ear. Anyway, aside from neti pots, are there any nutritional supplements out there that build up a high immune system against all this crap in the water? Im a big fan of natural organic but for some reason I'm that into ayuverdic stuff.

  5. #35
    Quote Originally Posted by 8TheWave View Post
    I agree that the water has been pretty dirty. Gosh, I remember the time I had a real bad ear infection because of something that had been in the water. I had this purple goo come out of my ear. Anyway, aside from neti pots, are there any nutritional supplements out there that build up a high immune system against all this crap in the water? Im a big fan of natural organic but for some reason I'm that into ayuverdic stuff.
    Its all about boosting the immune system. Stay up on the vitamines a, b, c, d, e, f..... etc. and drink a ton of water. I love this time of year, i dont get sick until i start duckdiving 40 degree waves.

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    I was tired

    I was really really tired after surfing friday evening and first light saturday morning

  7. #37
    Quote Originally Posted by mikeb2056 View Post
    Your absolutely right.

    Most of this antibiotic resistance is caused by feeding livestock antibiotics non stop to make them grow quicker thus exposing bacteria constantly to antibiotics and giving them a chance to adapt to the antibiotics, thus making them resistant. You always hear about over prescription of meds and how people are prescribed antibiotics even when they don't need them. While this is true and a problem, the major cause is livestock. Your talking about billions of animals being given an antibiotic non stop for years. Only a matter of time before resistant strains of bacteria evolve and adapt to the environment. Antibiotics truly are a magic bullet that we basically discovered by accident. Bubonic plague killed half of Europe. You can't begin to imagine how many lives have been saved by antibiotics. It truly is one of the few miracle drugs and unfortunately we are working steadfastly to help make them ineffective by over prescribing them to people and using them in livestock operations. Their use in livestock should be banned immediately. I'm not talking animal rights here. It's about people.
    Agricultural runoff is the number one water pollutant in the U.S. and surprisingly it is completely unregulated by the EPA. Why? Because the farm lobby is huge and powerful. Agricultural subsidies are the single largest pay out of federal tax dollars to private individuals. Now if they could just stand up to Monstersanto! Or we could all clean up the water and our bodies by going organic veggie. . .(but don't tell a Texan that). Another thing to support in the cause of cleaner water is a moratorium on building over or otherwise removing wetlands. All farming creates some sort of bacterial water pollutant (livestock being the worst), but wetlands very effectively filter it out.

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    I feel like dog **** too. Started in my ears, now it's my sinuses and throat. Really really tired too. I thought it was from going to the casino and being around a lot of people. But it definitely started with the surf.

    The whole situation is extremely disturbing. Any thoughts on doing something about it?

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    Use Sinu-cleanse. It works great.

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    Support the people who support clean water & who are doing something about it.