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    Quote Originally Posted by yankee View Post
    Unfortunately, my statement IS true Old Boy...with respect, I know of whence I speak. MRSA, if not caught early, is a nasty killer that morphs & can get worse once it is underway. By no means is it a slam dunk for doctors & drugs. There's def already strains of MRSA that are resistant to powerful juice like Vancomyicin.

    I caught MRSA from gym equipment in 2008. Freakn gym equipment....unreal. A boil that got worse & hurt like a witch. Had to get it lanced, tested, then off to the Infectious Disease Clinic. (just the name of the clinic alone....da f**k) Antibiotic pills didn't touch it. They sewed a PIC line into my arm, with the line just cm from my heart, the better to pump drugs into my heart & rapidly out into my bloodstream. 2x per day for 3 weeks I pumped 2 hours worth of Cubicin into my body through that PIC line into my heart.

    I got lucky. Beat it in 3 weeks. My health care provider (awesome) told me some horror stories of fact, though. Like the competitive runner who was in tremendous shape, 30 y.o. got it from a towel in a gym. She was still doing the 2x daily IV drug regimen ONE YEAR later &they couldn't beat this wily evil bacteria. Many other stories of soccer moms, HS kids, pro athletes who no matter what could not shake MRSA.

    So, you're incorrect, amigo. This stuff is nasty & it can def take a person out, any person, even with modern meds.

    If y'all recall, 2 Redskins players caught it. One had to retire, 'cause they cut so much of his foot & calf away in desperate attempts to beat MRSA. And Redskins Park practive facility had to be gutted, costing millions of dollars, 'cause they couldn't cleanse the place of MRSA. It was done quietly, but the Skins had huge problems with MRSA, just as many pro teams have had MRSA issues.

    MRSA & gram negatives are not just hanging around hospitals. They're everywhere that humans are. And that includes the ocean.

    As for gram negatives: evil, evil stuff. Modern meds have only a couple of sketchy, 1940's era drugs in the gun against those nasty critters, and nothing is on the horizon that will be the magic bullet.

    “For Gram-positives we need better drugs; for Gram-negatives we need any drugs,” said Dr. Brad Spellberg, an infectious-disease specialist at Harbor-U.C.L.A. Medical Center in Torrance, Calif., and the author of “Rising Plague,” a book about drug-resistant pathogens. Dr. Spellberg is a consultant to some antibiotics companies and has co-founded two companies working on other anti-infective approaches. Dr. Rice of Cleveland has also been a consultant to some pharmaceutical companies.

    Doctors treating resistant strains of Gram-negative bacteria are often forced to rely on two similar antibiotics developed in the 1940s — colistin and polymyxin B. These drugs were largely abandoned decades ago because they can cause kidney and nerve damage, but because they have not been used much, bacteria have not had much chance to evolve resistance to them yet.

    “In many respects it’s far worse than MRSA,” said Dr. Louis B. Rice, an infectious-disease specialist at the Louis Stokes Cleveland V.A. Medical Center and at Case Western Reserve University. “There are strains out there, and they are becoming more and more common, that are resistant to virtually every antibiotic we have.”

    According to researchers at SUNY Downstate Medical Center, more than 20 percent of the Klebsiella infections in Brooklyn hospitals are now resistant to virtually all modern antibiotics. And those supergerms are now spreading worldwide.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/27/business/27germ.html
    http://www.amazon.com/Superbug-Fatal.../dp/141655727X

    You might be interested in this book; I found it very informing after my father came down with a MRSA infection from working in a hospital. I wouldn't worry about recombinant DNA from GM crops or livestock creating any type of super bug. Bacteria (competent species) already have the ability to transfer exogenous DNA.Certain viruses can also mutate exponentially and transfer DNA, or RNA. A major concern is the amount of antibiotics given to livestock creating resistant strains. This thread has definitely aroused significant concerns about the water quality in New Jersey. Our government routinely turns a blind eye upon ocean pollution, and I'm glad everyone is starting to discuss this topic.
    Last edited by andrewk529; Sep 29, 2010 at 03:23 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnxyz View Post
    Surferdann - That's insane. Hope you're 100% soon. Can you give us an idea of where you surfed and got sick afterwards? Thanks.
    Thanks Bro, probably about 60% better now. I was out in the morning at Darlington Ave in Deal and then went to Loch Arbour for an afternoon session. If I had to guess, I would say I got it at Loch Arbour (Deal Lake outfall).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Surferdann View Post
    Thanks Bro, probably about 60% better now. I was out in the morning at Darlington Ave in Deal and then went to Loch Arbour for an afternoon session. If I had to guess, I would say I got it at Loch Arbour (Deal Lake outfall).
    It could have just as easily been Deal since there's an outlet at Roosevelt, few blocks north of Darlington.

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    NASTY water this morning also. what a surprise. brown and soupy

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    Quote Originally Posted by mOtion732 View Post
    NASTY water this morning also. what a surprise. brown and soupy
    Great, can't wait! No surprise though after the rain we've had.

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    Funny, I just checked some spots again and in one spot I could smell the water from the street. The winds are now out of the north and coincidentally, the gross water is more abundant up north.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stoneybaloney View Post
    Funny, I just checked some spots again and in one spot I could smell the water from the street. The winds are now out of the north and coincidentally, the gross water is more abundant up north.
    dude, not even f**king with you, the water actually smelled like garbage when the tide was low. ****ing flies buzzing around in the ocean. it was pretty bad

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    My friend works at a sewage treatment facility and told me when we get storms and lots of rain is when they open the valves more to dump the excess sewage out. Thus leading to dirty foamy water ..take notice next time the foam color . That is why I left New Jersey for OBX. We don't have this senerio . Enjoy paddling through the yellow piss foam...hold your breathe

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    Quote Originally Posted by mOtion732 View Post
    dude, not even f**king with you, the water actually smelled like garbage when the tide was low. ****ing flies buzzing around in the ocean. it was pretty bad
    I'm assuming you were north near me. I'm heading south for several reasons.

    Quote Originally Posted by avonsurfernc View Post
    Enjoy paddling through the yellow piss foam...hold your breathe
    Enjoy being near nothing, the hicks, and the transplanted tri-staters in NC. Remember, stay away from the CARY area at all costs.

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    were suppose to get like 5 inches of rain on thursday. Friday should have an interesting smell.