I didn't read that old thread, but I have read before that Tom Sena bought up the licensing to all those old names, but the companies didn't actually sell out, they let their licensing expire. He just came in and basically took the names and licensed them out since they weren't licensed at that point. Not sure if that's true, but it seems plausible. I've even seen the canyons referred to as "Rockaway Canyon". I have a twin fin Canyon retro fish. Bought it dirt cheap used off some kid (was his first board). I wanted to try a retro fish for small waves to see if I liked it, and didn't want to plunk down a huge wad of cash. I'll tell you what, the shape is not bad at all. I'm sure it's a clone of someone elses shape, hell could be a clone of an old real Canyon from the Rusty era. Whatever the case, it's a pretty decent shape/outline. I'd love to say it sucks, but I can't, cus the board went well. I rode it from knee high up to overhead. The board I had wasn't really chunky for a retro twin. It was 6'2" which is long for a retro fish (I'm 220 lbs) but only 2 5/8 thick, and relatively foiled in the tail and nose considering it's a retro. There were no obvious flaws to the shape either. Very symetrical, no oddities in the shape or outline like I see on a lot of popouts in the shops. Guessing it was machine cut to pirated dimensions, and then just had some minor hand sanding. The quality of finish craftsmanship is pretty poor. The glass is heavy, probably 6 OZ, but it's just weird. It's hard and kind of brittle. Little chips/cracks all over, but hard to the point where it doesn't pressure ding. Someone said perhaps they actually spray the resin on...who knows. It just seems different than a "non-popout" glass job. Both swallow tail tips broke off and had to be repaired, the leash cup ripped out as it wasn't installed correctly, and eventually one of the generic fin boxes broke out. Their pretty junky boxes and it had some stiff fiberglass keel fins. I'm big and can put my weight into a turn so it was probably destined to happen. In the boards defense though, it saw it's share of head high waves, and I was hard on it; It was chest-head the day the box gave out. For me it served it's purpose. I knew after only a few sessions I really like riding a fish. I was able to take from it what I liked and disliked, and I've since had a custom made with tweaks in the shape/outline that suit me better. Now the Canyon sit's in my surfboard junkyard in the corner of the garage. As far as popouts go, you could do a lot worse, but it certainly had some shortcomings.
I got a old 5'10 Plastic Fantastic from the 70's before Rockaway Tom took over the name rights . Worth some nice coil and it rides sweet too
My buddys cousin has a real Canyon stashed in his beach house. It's a pretty sweet board. I've got a few classics, but not any of the Rockaway pirated labels.
Can somebody here help me contact Canyon???? One of my fins on my retro fish fell completely out of the board when i was surfing and I don't know where to get a replacement fin because of the strange fin box. Also, I cannot find the number or website to their company. Somebody please help!
You speak mandarin?? Just kidding. You won't get any support from canyon. Their made in a Chinese popout factory. I have a broken one in my garage and a stack of fcs fins. I'll check and see I they fit in the generic canyon fin boxes after I have lunch with my kids. Is it a twin fin fish? If so, which fin did you lose?
Okay thank you for your help...It is a retro twin fin fish. If you are looking at the board from its bottom side, the fin on the right is missing. Thank you.
Looking at bottom with nose up? So the left fin tat's missing then? Pretend the pic below is your board. Looking at it this way, which fin is missing?
If the missing fin looks like the one below, then it's your lucky day. Pm me ur address and I'll mail it to you.
Yeah Rockaway Tom Cena the most hated man in surfing. He bought Cayon, Chanllenger, Plastic Fantastic, Surfboards Australia and a few other . Kept the right and has them made over sea. I am shocked nobody fire bombed his surf shop in Rockaway Beach
How exactly does it work with Surftech and these other major companies like CI and Rusty among others? Do they just sell the rights or do they just a get a percentage of what they sell with their name on it?
surftech doesnt make all of their boards. i know CI has a few of their models available with surftech technology, but i doubt all the money is going to surftech
Surfboard comapanies will allow surftech to make boards with there name on it as long as they get a % of the profits.
Wouldn't you consider that selling out then? Its like whats the sence of supporting these companies that make boards over here If they don't care.
And people wonder why our economy is such a mess. Surfboard shaping is an art and craft. Buy a board shaped by a master and you will feel the difference right away.
This a a double edge sword . Pay or a buy a board from a local shaper and feed there family or buy a pop out and what you save feed yours. To the seasoned surfer this is a no brainer but, the beginer or someone wanting to get back in the water after a long hiatous the cheaper road is usually the best option in there eye. With the current state of our economy people gotta save money someplace.
