Atlantic 2012 Hurricane Forecast

Discussion in 'Mid Atlantic' started by mOtion732, Apr 25, 2012.

  1. mOtion732

    mOtion732 Well-Known Member

    Sep 18, 2008
    http://beta.weather.com/weather/hurricanecentral/article/2012-hurricane-season-forecast_2012-04-24

    Taken from article:
    “After very active tropical seasons in 2010 and 2011, we expect fewer storms to develop this hurricane season,” said Weather Services International (WSI), a part of The Weather Channel Companies, Chief Meteorologist Dr. Todd Crawford. “The combination of much cooler North Atlantic ocean temperatures and a trend towards El Nino conditions suggest a notable reduction in activity. There is still uncertainty regarding the development of El Nino, which will impact future forecast updates. If the chances of El Nino development increase, our forecast numbers will likely go down even further in future updates.”

    not sure where the "much cooler north atlantic ocean temperatures" are coming from based on our record breaking warm winter...
     
  2. Swellinfo

    Swellinfo Administrator

    May 19, 2006
    The water temperatures of regional importance are the tropics... So, even though are water temps are warmer, doesn't imply the tropical waters are anomalously warm.
     

  3. mOtion732

    mOtion732 Well-Known Member

    Sep 18, 2008
    that being said, why would they be talking about north atlantic water temps anyway?
     
  4. Bronze Whaler

    Bronze Whaler Well-Known Member

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    Aug 22, 2009
    that's the part of the Atlantic above the equator where we surf- sure the storms come across Africa as tropical waves but they strengthen and form in the North Atlantic Ocean, Carribean Sea or Gulf of Mexico and this is largely influenced by upper level wind shear and sea surface temperatures
     
  5. MFitz73

    MFitz73 Well-Known Member

    Aug 21, 2010
    Im gonna guess the other way here.... lots of off shore hurricanes to roard through the atlantic this summer! lol.
     
  6. ZBass

    ZBass Well-Known Member

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    Jan 4, 2012
    Is it me or is trying to accurately forecast the weather and predict surf conditions more of an art than an actual science? Not that I don't check Swellinfo throughout the day every day, even in Baltimore.
     
  7. brek

    brek Well-Known Member

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    Jun 17, 2008
    Hey Zbass...Now I am not a meteorologist, but I'd say it has less to do with art and more to do with understanding probabilities.

    You'll see people get pissed cause they cancelled outdoor plans based on a weather forecast saying it was going to rain that day when it turned out to be a beautiful and sunny. But if you looked further, that forecast called for a 60% chance of rain - so, if this same scenario ran 10 times, in 4 of them there wouldn't be rain.
    At the same time, there are several different models predicting the weather at any given time (GFS, Euro, NAM, etc) and it's possible they could all be saying different things. I don't know, maybe there is some art there.

    I saw an article a couple weeks ago (can't find it now, so no link) where they studied the effects of a drastically warmer than average winter. The long range patterns actually indicated that more often than not, a cooler than average summer has occurred following the warm winter.

    I am also in the baltimore area, and check the swellinfo forecasts first thing in the morning and almost as soon as they are updated at 6pm.
     
    Last edited: Apr 25, 2012
  8. ZBass

    ZBass Well-Known Member

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    Jan 4, 2012
    Thanks for the enlightenment....and it is ZBass to you. With a graduate degree in psychology, I know all about probabilities and statistics....you can twist data to say whatever you want. I still say there is some art and luck involved in surf and weather forecasting. Personally, I enjoy it when the forecast isn't calling for any waves and you luck out.
     
  9. andrewk529

    andrewk529 Well-Known Member

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    Sep 3, 2010