All of this dribble about how surfers are expected to help beginners, and expected to wear leashes because some swimmer or beginner might get hit.... and talk of suing people.. I am calling you out!!! STOP SURFING, IT'S NOT FOR YOU. This isn't a team sport, take up softball. Surfing is what it is because generation after generation surfers have led the rebellious front against society. Only lately have surfers become "athletes" and respectable members of society. Good for the pro's, but stop trying to subject me and my like-minded brother-en to this pussification of surfing. Some "benny / kook / tourist /whatever" buys a funboard and all of the sudden that person is a surfer? THAT is who would call the cops because they got in the way of another, better, surfers board. THAT is not a surfer, and THAT is not what surfing is about. Leashes didn't even exist until the 1980's, and let me re-assure you, IT HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH KIDDIES ON THE INSIDE, it was so that Gerry lopez could stop swimming through the urchins after his board in G land.
thunderous applause!!! can we also add those who feel entitled to surf however they want, wherever they want without consequence.
I am with Lee. It seems like it is not just surfing that is going through a "pussification" but the whole country. I know I will be accused of old fartism here but it WAS different when I learned. (late 70s, early 80s). You didn't dare go anywhere near the older, seasoned guys. It was like showing up at a Pagans MC run on a Vespa. You had to fall in with your own pack of buddies and as you got older you took over. It was fun, it was safe, it was REGULATED by those in the water. No F%cking lawsuits or cops. Now, everyone wants to claim their right to surf no matter their age, skill level, or type of craft. Is change always a good thing?
I agree with everything except the leash part. You have no right to endanger others just to satisfy your own ego and please spare me any crap about how a leash creates too much drag or forces you to try harder- if anything you can push the envelope with one on instead of having to hold back. That said if its waist high and just a few people out then it's no biggie. I'm not a propopent of our highly litigious society but you'd be a fool to take uneccessary chances with it.
YES! If I listen to one more bawl-baby pussified wannabe (in or out of the water) I'm going to jam crowbar through their eye socket. Something about how todays world hands out freebies to lazy bums too afraid to get their hands dirty. Whatever happened to scraping your knees or throwing a little elbow and then once in a while taking a good old fashioned ass-handing to get where you want? Man up folks.
Did you really post this?! Did you just type "brother-en", and attempt to give a surfer's history lesson? I wear a leash out of respect for other surfers (Kooks included) and other's enjoying the ocean. Sounds like you have watched too much "bra-boys" and corny a$$ surf flicks. Everyone gets tired of some kook getting in the way, but it happens. If someone is obviously out to disrespect others, well things work themselves out. You are "CALLING OUT" people on a surf forum?!! The same people that surf? Usually don't post, but these usual tough guy posts are pathetic. Your board is going to hit the wrong person one day, and you might be looking to "call the cops." Hopefully the other 966 posts of yours do not consist of crying...... Your turn......show your "tough-guy" internet skills! Freakin tool
first let me say that i pretty much 100% agree w/ everything contain w/in your post & earl's. but, in the interest of historical veracity, i have to correct you on one point. the leash first showed up in the 70s, created by pat o'neill in santa cruz, ca.
i love how you guys take all the stupid swellinfo posts so serious. i can assure you that the nonsence that plagues these forums is NOT a true reflection of surfing as a whole.
Lee I know who you are, some of your message has validity. Some of it is, I really don't know what to call it. We did this to ourselves by trying to make some money. It is what it is. Deal with it, and damn man learn how to spell. I know you go to college. Everyone needs to stop worrying about lawsuits. Take from a cop that has been involved in a few. Oh and one more thing, before you throw out that puss moniker, you should see how you surf.
The "kiddies on the inside" reference was mine. I wear a leash when I feel like it makes sense, not because it's the law... written or unwritten. I don't wear a leash when I think it doesn't make sense. And what makes sense to me is how I'd feel if I hurt a kid when I could have done something simple to have prevented it. That's called thinking for myself. If I take a risk that might end up with me getting hurt, that's my choice. But when I take a risk that might hurt someone else, it would make me an irresponsible sociopath. That has nothing to do with rebelling against society. I do that in my own personal ways, and I don't call attention to it, because it's personal to me and who should give a fark anyway.
i can't believe more ppl are going nuts over this thread... along with everything else... this forum has been going down the tubes.... wait, wrong thread for that. sorry. could you spell check my post? Lee- nice subject!!!