Guys, please . . .

Discussion in 'Northeast' started by Sloop John B., Jul 15, 2012.

  1. fl.surfdog

    fl.surfdog Well-Known Member

    Dec 6, 2010
    im glad i live where i live, there are popular surfing beaches in Fl that get crowded, with that being said, i can walk 200 yrds. or drive 2 miles to get out of the crowds, i feel bad for the people that dont have that kind of opportunity to do so, it must be tough living in the northern part of our country with the crowds and the extreme cold in the winter.
     
  2. Sloop John B.

    Sloop John B. Well-Known Member

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    Jun 28, 2011
    Hah, Bumble****, Egypt. Yeah, Pennsylvania's not the same deal. I come back from not surfing in a while and it'll take me a wave or two to get my bearings again, but for me it doesn't take that long to get the acuity back.

    As far as being a waterman, I've lived on waterfront property basically my whole life. It's my sanctuary and my release. The worst part of college for me is being away from the ocean.

    I don't respect you more because happenstance or different priorities leaves you with more time to go in the ocean. I don't even respect you more if you're a better surfer than I am. I don't respect lesser surfers less because of their surfing ability.

    The way I see it, I love surfing and I want it to thrive. I want it to thrive in the hearts of as many people as possible. If that means that after paddling back from a nice wave I just rode, I sit on my board and let it go under me so that the beginner on the foamie can understand what it means to fly down a steep face, that's worth it to me. Even if they fall and get pummeled by it, thereby "wasting" the best wave of the day it's still worth it to me. It helps them to know what it's all about.
     

  3. Sloop John B.

    Sloop John B. Well-Known Member

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    Jun 28, 2011
    I have no ****ing agenda to push people out of the water. I'm a skilled surfer and I can avoid people who don't know what they're doing on waves pretty well. That **** doesn't bother me. What bothers me is ****ed up attitudes and aggressiveness in the break. What bothers me is the god-damned pecking order. I honestly believe that entitlement leads to more accidents in the surf zone than beginner errors. Most collisions I see are between some beginner who cluelessly dropped in and some entitled prick zooming down the line, refusing to pull out, and deliberately trying to either hit or buzz super close to the other dude . . .

    People like you just fill lineups with negativity and selfish vibes. Get over yourself and look after your sport and the safety of others rather than your private little wave quota. Waterman? Hah. That's like doctors who assist in the practice of the death penalty . . .
     
  4. dlrouen

    dlrouen Well-Known Member

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    Jun 6, 2012
    Thanks srfman11 for the amazing article. It was great bathroom reading. I am glad CB will get a small portion of the pie, since nourishment was not included in this year's budget for other small beaches, like neighboring Kure Beach.

    Even though government funding is totally irrelevant to this thread, I will expand on this a little more.

    Funding goes way beyond nourishment, srfman11. If you think about it, nourishment is almost necessary for beaches on the East Coast, since hurricanes ravage our coastline every year. Without nourishment, we would have a receding coastline or our favorite beaches would be gone forever. Take a look at the OBX after last year's hurricane season. I thought that the OBX was gone forever. Anyway, beaches need more than nourishment, especially since beaches play such an integral role in tourism for most states. What about the streets, the water, the flooding, etc. Take a look at my signature - "DON'T DRINK THE WATER." It's because you will die if you drink the water in CB. If this is news to you, read the letter that is mailed with every water bill. Instead of fixing these issues, among other issues, the state has to repave I-40 and the Governor's mansion needs another fireplace. I know that every need can not be fixed right away; however, our coast brings in so much money for the state, the least they could do is re-nourish our beaches. That way the fat a$$ people from Leland have a place to sit and throw bread to seagulls, so they can sh1t all over the "nourished" beach. Who paid for our freshly paved roads? Local funding. How about our bridge "re-construction?" Local funding.
     
  5. dlrouen

    dlrouen Well-Known Member

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    Jun 6, 2012
    Sounds like you're pretty adamant about this issue. It also sounds like you spent all weekend getting cut off and dropped in on by the local "summer pros." Why don't you quit whining and go show those dudes what's up? This is a forum, not Desperate Housewives.
     
  6. Sloop John B.

    Sloop John B. Well-Known Member

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    Jun 28, 2011
    I wasn't getting dropped in on very much. I wasn't the one getting dropped in on. I simply reported on how people were being idiots and threatening violence on other people, and I think that's lame. I went on to say how I think bad vibes are the major problem in the lineup. How do you suggest I "Show those dudes what's up" without doing something against my values of not giving off bad vibes in the lineup?
     
  7. dlrouen

    dlrouen Well-Known Member

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    Jun 6, 2012
    "Show those dudes what's up" does not refer to doing something against your "values." In all honesty, it sounds like the surfers on your break don't respect one another, yet alone you. You gain respect (and wave count) by surfing with everything. Make every wave count and paddle right back out after catching one. Make sure the "local summer pros" know that you are just as entitled to share the waves than they are. You have to earn it.
     
  8. Sloop John B.

    Sloop John B. Well-Known Member

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    Jun 28, 2011
    I surf well and surf often. People mainly respect each other. It was a weekend in July, so there were a lot of people. There were like two people mouthing off on sunday, and one asshole a couple other days. It's a few people in a crazy big lineup.

    I'm out there at either Hemlock or Lincoln most days of the week and people recognize me at both of those spots.
     
  9. dlrouen

    dlrouen Well-Known Member

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    Jun 6, 2012
    I am going to print this out and put it in the bank. CB Surf Etiquette 101. Much love & appreciation from CB Avenue North.
     
  10. dlrouen

    dlrouen Well-Known Member

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    Jun 6, 2012
    That's awesome that you are recognized at not one, but two surf spots. Other surfers are always going to get schooled, cut off, dropped in on by other surfers, "summer pros," spongers & locals. If you have such a problem with other dudes "mouthing off," take it up with them right there. Keep it real at Hemlock / Lincoln. I'm out.

    Earn it or confront it.
     
  11. rcarter

    rcarter Well-Known Member

    Jul 26, 2009
    dlrouen, you need to lay off the "tourist" and Raleigh surfers. I'm from Raleigh and come down eveytime there are waves. I wait my turn and give and take without causing problems. Yes there are many many idiotic kooks in the water but many of those are your local neighbors and not just out of towners. In addition to the tax money the coast gets from all North Carolina residents your area would be bankrupt with out the influx of tourist money every summer. Living ocean front and paying city taxes does not entitle you to any wave you want or to bash on others. We surfed Topsail yesterday at the Surf City pier and it was crowded as fuk. We drove down to the old watchtower on the south end and there was nobody out and it was breaking better. Point is even if it's your spot and you have been there for years the beach and ocean are public domain. Yes I love fall and winter when the line up thins and only those who surf for the love of it are out but if you want the summer crowds to not leave and not spend $ then kiss your happy beach lifestyle goodbye. I usually like your posts and opinions but this time I think you are venting some anger that is misdirected at all non locals when many local "shredders" are just as if not more guilty of poor behavior in the water. The point is that this is not a point or reef break with a set line up and take off spot. There are plenty of peaks up and down the beach, hence the term beach break, if it is too crowded then look for a quieter spot till the tourist leave and take their $ with them. As stated before the more issues there are the more local governments will crack down. Locals or not I promise you the cities will enact laws to save the tourist $'s, surfers be damned. Don't believe me, just look at the surf zones in Wrightsville, implemented after complaints from parents of their kids getting run over by boards. Also taxes and tourist $ aside all other residents of NC pay increased property insurance premiums to let the companies be profitable enough to write coverage in the coastal region. I am an agent and have seen many companies move out of any area east of I-95 due to losses from storms. If not for us folks inland you would not have any companies willing to cover you and your ocean front house. No insurance = no mortgages and no money to rebuild after a storm. Just something to think about when you are angry over the knee-waist high summer swells being crowded with Raleighites. You seem like a good guy, not bashing on ya just trying to set the record straight on funding and such. I too hate when people crowd an area and do not behave themselves.

    Oh BTW I do like your Eavey, that is a sick board. He glasses for my buddy in Wilm who shapes.
     
    Last edited: Jul 16, 2012
  12. dlrouen

    dlrouen Well-Known Member

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    Jun 6, 2012
    Rcarter, I like your style. You're right, I am putting a lot of negative, unneeded spin on this topic, but please know I did not mean contextual harm to those west of I-95. I have a friend in Raleigh that leaves his surfboard & skimboard at my place for the swells. Take the "lashing" as dry sarcasm.

    In an earlier post, I wrote "Locals support smaller economies, so families have a nice place to visit year after year." I may not like fresh faces, but I know that the city I live in needs it. I want families to leave the beach in high spirits. I know what summer brings and I try and make the best of it at all times. Fortunately, I am tied up at the office from 8-6, so I miss out on a lot of the traffic. The ocean sure is nice at 6:30.

    Rcarter - PM me the next time you roll down 40. You have a parking spot at CB.
     
  13. scotty

    scotty Well-Known Member

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    Aug 26, 2008
    Death penalty and voluntary euthanasia seem like slightly different things, but reading your and (mainly) sloop's post starts to make both seem like attractive options.
     
  14. rcarter

    rcarter Well-Known Member

    Jul 26, 2009
    Thanks for understanding man. Glad you understood what I was getting at. I do know the feeling of seeing all the Ohio plates and salt life stickers on 40 while driving down and knowing the beach and water will be packed. Summer time blues huh my man! Well only a month or so and the waves will regulate themselves for us I guess. Course you know the crowds that come during that first good hurricane swell when all the UNCW freshmen buy their first board and try and charge out only to get crushed on the first ill timed duck dive, but that thins out quickly enough. The 8-6 life sux when the surf is good. Damn cams make it even harder to sit at work while seeing what your missing. Oh the days before the intraweb when we had to call a surf report :) I will PM you when I come next time and would love to surf with you, like I said you seem really cool and I do love surfing CB. Pray for more swell!
     
  15. RobG

    RobG Well-Known Member

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    Jun 17, 2010
    I spend a good amount of time in CB, my wife and I spent the summer there a few years ago and since then we come down about once every two months year round. It's always such a welcome change from surfing in NJ, the warm blue water, way less people on the beach and in the lineup and most people are super friendly. Not having a surfing zone during the summer gives everyone room to spread out and keeps people from getting bunched up and aggro.

    I love CB, planning on moving there within the next year or so. Been applying for jobs in the area for a couple months now, just waiting to hear back.
     
  16. travy

    travy Well-Known Member

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    Jul 3, 2010
    aren't you the b!tch who carries a knife in the lineup?
     
  17. spongedude

    spongedude Well-Known Member

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    Feb 28, 2010
    mmmmm.. today in HB, lousy chop but not a soul in the break. just lotsa happy clouds.....
     
  18. Erock

    Erock Well-Known Member

    Aug 6, 2011
    Dude, the water in CB is not blue.... except for maybe 4 times a year. However, the vibe is still at least 50% better than WB 100% of the time.
     
  19. dlrouen

    dlrouen Well-Known Member

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    Jun 6, 2012
    Dude, the water here is crystal clear. Whenever I get thirsty, I take a sip from CB's golden shores.
     
  20. MFitz73

    MFitz73 Well-Known Member

    Aug 21, 2010
    There's this ridiculous jobless 18 yo that surfs one of the spots by me and his presence in the lineup is the absolute worst.... he thinks he's in a contest and mixes that with taking a wave and then aggro paddles right back up to the inside spot everytime.... when's he's not paddling for the wave he's hooting and hollaring for his friends to start paddling into whichever wave he cant get too no matter who is in the next wave spot.... so this retard is single handedly fcking up the lineup. And after all of this.... I could see myself to getting past this bllshet but when you watch this idiot surf.... all he does is take a bent knee stance and pumps and pumps and pumps and then comes off the wave.... I mean what a fcking duschbag...