Slater interview/ sunblock

I was just thinking I should have bought some stock in Reynold's Wrap and Alcoa.

 

I often refer to Dr Andrew Weil, with regards to a lot of stuff like this.

This is what he has to say on chemicals in Sun Block:
http://www.drweil.com/drw/u/id/QAA282453

If you read the article, Dr Weil doesn't seem too concerned about the chemicals.
But there are choices out there and personally I don't mind spending a bit more for a more natural product.

 

take a study and twist its conclusions to serve some sort of agenda=junk science

 

Archy..."you are full of sh!t."

Mr. Swellinfo: You are a scientist and I have always respected what you do/done. I like to educate myself on all different types of health related stuff and I practive what I preach. There is ZERO research that show sunscreen causes cancer and yet, there is 50 years of proof that sunscreen does protect the skin from harmful UV rays.

I have not conducted my own study, but the proof is in the pooding; ***don't use sunscreen, you will have an adverse outcome***

And as for quicksilver; I don't buy it, but, made in Asia or not-QUICKSILVER IS EMPLOYING MORE PEOPLE IN AMERICA then many other surfbrands. I would rather shop at old navy and I prefer no logo's on my clothes. My point is that we are better off with quicksilver then without. I will not quote on the working condition or the age of the people making clothes for quick, but I can promise you that they are not children and they are getting paid more then what you think is relative income to their society.

 

I concur..........Good article with proven fact.

 

Dr. Weil is the man, has a lot of interesting things to say about a lot of stuff...I know that was super vague, but the guy talks about everything from sunblock to psilocybin.

 

Good thread... I appreciate your concern, however, If I want advise on sun block / skin cancer, i'll ask a dermo, if I want advise on improving my surfing, I'll ask Slater, nuff said.

 

so which brands are ok for you? currently i use zinka or vertra on my face and wear a t-shirt

 

i pick up whatever is cheapest. since I'm follically-challenged like slater, I use Warpaint on the dome (basically clear zinc oxide)

 

Neutrogena ultrasheer, nice and non-greasy. Maybe Headhunter for my face if I'm logging serious outdoor/water time.

 

archy




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Warning NY surfers!



"This is a message to all New York surfers. I am from the Northern beaches of New Jersey, and never been one to hate. But I heard from several people that went to Lido and Long Beach for the Leslie swell that they were vibed and told to go home numerous times. We here in Jersey have always been tolerant of you NY guys coming down here during the winter South swells. Well no longer. If your going to come down this way, you are going to get vibed BIG TIME!!! Go to Cape Cod or Deleware or Maryland for the West winds. You are no longer welcome here. Sorry if it wasn't you vibing us. Too bad. A couple of rotten apples spoil the whole barrel. "

So... What you consider responsible and ethical is threatening an entire state with some BIG TIME vibing?

 

agree with zaGaffer: surfed 4 days straight on the west coast couple weeks ago...water was so polluted, ended up with an ear ache and a fin kick wound that got infected and still has puss coming out.

Vertra may be toxic, but it can't be any worse than the water I was in....btw, it's the longest lasting sunblock I've ever worn as even soap doesn't take it off completely (makes me look like I'm wearing make-up, but it's better than looking like a ghost zombie).

 

So your OPINION, contrary to ZERO scientific evidence is to be taken as fact? I think your thetans are low.

 

I know archy's other post about people being vibed "big time" was super gay, but I have to say that many sunscreens may be harmful. The problem is, many people are fooled into thinking that if there is no medical journal report, then it must not be true, instead of using logic and reason. Do we have a test group of humans, some who will use sunscreen and some who won't, who we can keep in a controlled environment with regulated equal sunlight exposure, for a period of 20 yrs? no. even if some did develop cancer would we know the cause? no. We don't even understand cancer well enough yet.
Did we used to have large trucks that sprayed DDT on our neighborhood streets? yes. my uncle used to run behind them chasing the mist.

 

OB,
I guess you didn't read my post. I referred people to Dr. Weil's article, which was parallel with your view.
And, I definitely did not say don't use sunblock...

 

I understand that some of you see wearing sunscreen as absolutely necessary because you really want to surf in the sun and can't wear hats or shades. But don't let your desire block out your reason.
Poor whiteys. I guess sometimes being mexicano isn't so bad.

 

the funny thing is the banning of DDT actually caused millions of deaths from malaria. Another example of pop science leading to unintended consequences.

PS--logic and reason would use the scientific method to prove or disprove a hypothesis. Screaming the sky is falling based on a theory is irrational.