What are you talking about not making it? Every LB on the east coast can easily make those waves. That swell is big compared to our normal knee high stuff. I can catch anything knee high or above using a fun shape. You have experience surfing both LB types? Since when are there only 2 types. Why do you make stuff up? Personally, I have never ridden a Malibu. I have been on a tri fin and a single fin classic style, both of which easily catch small to large waves. I don't need evidence, as there is a 40 year history of east coast surfing that shows the designs are proven to work. Will Allison has been shaping for 34+ years. I think he would be considered experienced.
Right. You are related to a man that grew up in Louisiana and moved to NC. If your boards were in east coast swell, you probably wouldn't catch anything. I wouldn't want to be anywhere near you with those weapons.
These boards have a huge wave making advantage of mainstream longboards, it's easy to say from your chair that you'd make this wave or that because the boards make it look easy, but the reality is that during the majority of sessions the other boards struggle and fail. Yes, and more importantly I surf with all the variations of the mainstream 'Malibu' derived type on a regular basis and have done for a long time. They can't compete most of the time, because of their obvious design deficiencies. Almost all mainstream longboards are derived from the Malibu type,although there are many variations they can stilll be lumped into the same category as far as their general deficiencies go. I don't... except in the sense that I design, original surfboards. The point is that until the boards encounter superior craft then they are comparing their performance only with themselves. I'm in the position where I can compare, you are not. .
Was thinking the same thing, you don't even need a LB for that wave in the video, that's got enough juice for me or anybody with any skill what-so-ever to catch on just about ANY board no problem. I've caught and ridden far less of a wave on a much smaller, skinnier, lighter board (6'10" FunFish) and still managed long rides.
Is this serious? Over a million dollars for a board? There is no way you have ever even sold one at that price.
It's quite likely actually, if one goes back a few generations. Lol now you are getting desperate! Of course I'd catch plenty. I sympathise somewhat since no one wants to be outperformed. In terms of safety however I have an excellent record with respect to other surfers... partly because I am very safety conscious and partly because my boards have such excellent control capabilities. .
My guess is you have never surfed the eastern coast of the old US of A. If you had, your comments would be very different. I pray for the waves you had in that video. I don't care if they were the weakest waves ever, the size and shape would make most of us very happy. This is considered semi big for us: [video=youtube_share;CZtMKdIWUdM]http://youtu.be/CZtMKdIWUdM[/video] We may not be pros out here, and we don't build $1mil boards, but East Coasters can surf even the worst waves.
Sorry but your pics only show up as blank boxes with a red X on my screen. You sorry SOB, only YOU couldn't catch a wave that nice without a LB, I on the other hand can and do on the regular. Nobody is dreaming but you.
No Roy, I made that chitt up first. BTW, I know Will very well. Roy, on your best day you couldn't even hold a candle to a fart coming from his arse. Board making and surfing abilities aside and just based on class--throw the other two into the equation and it makes you appear more the single celled organism you are...
I surf stuff like that often, those surfers are severely handicapped by their equipment. Although the waves are short and tend to close out with a board like the Ghost or Makaha, if they knew what they were doing they'd get far better results. Many videos of me riding smaller and weaker surf can be seen on my youtube channel. It depends upon what one means by 'surf'.. those riders are not making the best of it. Bring on the video grovel fest comp!
It's statements like these that SCREAM TROLL, you are doing a great job i'll give you that, troll away Roy, troll away!!!!
I know I said I won't post here again.. but here I am... Roy let me tell you things about your board. 1. they will perform like turd in small waves. 2. they will perform like Turd in STEEP fast waves. 3. they are designed for mushy waves probably waist high to shoulder high with slow faces. so, now that those points are established, and they are until you post some video of steep fast hollow waves being ridden by you, let me ask you this..... What the heck is the point of this entire thread? You want to discuss what? how you are not open to being critique-d or how you thumb your nose at the modern surfboard? What is it? what do you want? do you want all of us to say, gee wiz, that Roy guy sure is crafty and witty all roled into one! To be totally honest on your design... its appears to be pretty simplistic an not very advanced. by sticking the tail of the board into the rising wave you take advantage of its most abundant power but whats the point? You are not able to take advantage of the rest of the wave. For example, modern thruster actually generates speed from user input. did you know that? Other then the tail inside the rising part of the wave, you are maybe getting some quick lived speed from gravity. For that reason alone you'll never take advantag of a wave the way a modern surfboard does. Not too mention you design pigeon holes you into one type of wave. Mushy, (big or small) slow moving shoulders. I, along with everyone in this thread is impressed by one thing and one thing only... how much of an irritating annoyance you have become. Seeing this thread on this forum everday has made this site an unpleasant experience. Now give it a rest. no one is going to give you a damn as you contiune on with yourself like this.
You couldn't be more wrong. I surf with riders on boards of all typical kinds all the time... they can't make it in conditions like that, although they typically enter the water full of hope when they see them being made by my boards. The boards have a HUGE advantage in sub optimal conditions.
Roy your board have a HUGE disadvantage is steep hollow waves. Am I wrong? ofcourse I am. Cause you posted that video of you surfing pipe and chopes... Oh no you didn't.
Roy, I have some various large slabs of various mahoganies, Brazilian Cherry, Eastern Red Cedar and the such. Some of it live edge and some of it all rough sawn. I bet I could randomly grab one of those slabs, preferably a 10/4 at about 26" wide, and it will ride circles around one of your retarded, cracked-out tongue depressors you call "surf craft."
That's it Roy, i'm tired of you beating around the bush. Why don't you MEET ME AT MY BREAK and we'll see who's serious and who's dreaming. Your sh*tty lincoln log vs. my FunFish with dings and everything all over it, I'll have the camera and everything ready so we can settle this debate once and for all. What do you have to lose? Oh that's right, all credibility, but you lost that a long time ago when you opened your mouth for the 1st time to this forum, and other forums across the interweb. So again, what do you have to lose?
Wrong on all counts, and they ride exceptionally well in hollow conditions, as one would expect from their shapes. I am open to it, and respond to it truthfully. All surfboard do, and it is precisely what my boards do. The entire flex system is designed for precisely that, and it works. Incorrect they do very well in steep waves. as one would expect. The designs are beyond modern and are free of the limiting modern paradigm. Are you quite sure that you speak for everyone? You don't have to visit the thread. If you don't like the thread then you could give it a rest yourself. Is that so hard to figure out?