To Shoot or not to shoot

maybe you're thinking of it this way
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collapse_of_the_Atlantic_northwest_cod_fishery

In November of 2006, Fisheries and Oceans Canada released an article suggesting that the unexpectedly slow recovery of the cod stock is due to inadequate food supplies, cooling of the North Atlantic, and a poor genetic stock due to the overfishing of larger cod.[15] During the summer of 2011, a study was announced to show that recovery of East Coast cod stocks around Nova Scotia showed promises of recovery, despite earlier thoughts of complete collapse.[16] It was found that initial stages of recovery began around 2005, though more time and studies were needed to study the long-term stability of the stock increase.

then they added this that I guess you miss on your own investigation.

In addition in 2010 a study by the Northwest Atlantic Fisheries Organization found that stocks in Grand Banks near Newfoundland & Labrador had recovered by 69% since 2007, though that number only equates to 10% of the original stock.[16]

 

Forget shooting, use dynamite.

 

There is a difference between seawater and water in a pool. Ocean water is more dense.

 

Agree with not killing the animal, even if it did kill a human. It's easy to see how infuriated some people may get, but, to reiterate, we are in their turf when we choose to go out in the ocean and assume responsibility for whatever occurs.

Using only common sense and cause-effect relation, I've devised a theory. We know that most attacks on humans are due to murky water, mistaken identity, sharks being hungry, etc etc. With that in mind, how many great whites have attacked and killed humans on the east coast? (I realize a guy was bitten by one in Cape Cod last summer, but there's reasonable explanation for that considering a growing seal population.) If these sharks were going hungry, half of us on here would be dead. The Atlantic is still teaming with enough life to keep these sharks fed...We need to keep the fish population in our parts thriving, prevent overfishing, and do our part to keep our oceans as clean as feasibly possible, or we will be in the same boat as New Zealand. Just my $.02. I ain't 'fraid of no sharks!

 

8 ft of seawater then.

 

Maybe we should embed magnets in our stringers. This wikipedia article references several peer reviewed papers that show there is some validity to the concept. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetic_shark_repellent But the jury seems to be split on the usefulness.

It might not stop 'em all but as long as the other guys don't have them you're good to go. Just paddle in before no one else is left floating.

I wonder if the magnets would need to be larger for bigger sharks??? I mean a hot pepper is still a hot pepper and burns your mouth whether your a bean pole or if you need to lift your gut to take a pizz.

Someone could make a small fortune getting soccer moms to buy fins with magnets in them for their kids boards. That plus costco foamies with special shark repelling "Rare Earth Magnets" embedded in the foam. Definitely would be worthy of a RS price tag too $$$$$$$$

 

Good info... Guess there is a bit o a cod chortage up there... I was incorrecet sir.
I fish off Long Island so so my info is more accurate for that area.. I just know that when I've gone on cod trips out of MA it's been great.

 

Im a fisherman in mass and there is plenty of fish up here. All of the good fishing grounds have been closed for years and are loaded with fish. Laws are so strict up here that there are fish everywhere except for the shoal water off of the cape. The fish wont go in there anymore because the seal population is so out of control.

 

just think how many fish would be there if they stopped it until it was 30% of original stock. I know it's about jobs, but what happens when it goes beyond the point of no return? you got to get another job anyway. Like logging. once the timber hasbeen depleted, whatcha gonna do? cut grass I guess.

 

I also agree, that I don't think they should have shot the shark. The guy was already dead, so what was the point of shooting the shark, except for vengeance?

 

Correct me if I'm wrong, but weren't the guys in the boats shooting the shark while the attack was still occurring? I'm completely against the hunting of the shark post-attack. What's done is done. But everyone on here are idiots if you can tell me that you, if you were in a boat with a gun in your hand, were watching a man get eating alive by a shark and you wouldn't shoot. Tell the man getting eaten that "too bad sir, but you are in the shark's turf. Should have known better." Love the ocean. Love fish. Grew up on the beach, and fished offshore my entire life. But if a fellow man is getting eaten alive, you do whatever you can to save that man. Whether its by a bear in the woods, or a shark in the water. You protect the person.

Or how would you feel if you were the man getting eaten, and you watched people with guns stand by and do nothing.

Also, have done plenty of shark fishing in my life. Have seen what damage a 12 gauge can do to a shark, and you can do quite a bit of damage to a shark, even if it is underwater. So I don't care what Mythbusters says, or what Wikipedia says, because I've shot a shark myself, and I know what happens.

If my understanding of the situation is wrong, and they hunted/shot the shark post-attack, I apologize for calling everyone idiots.

 

it cant be fished to that point because there are massive closed areas where nobody is allowedto fish. Thesse closed areas are all spawning areas. They also have no idea what the original stock numbers are. They didnt start doing stock research until the 70's when the fish stocks were already wiped out and there were thousands of fishing boats fishing then including giant foriegn factory trawlers. now there are only a few hundred fishing boats that fish under strict regulations. the fish populations have been steadily rising for the past 15 years.

 

Ditto.....

 

I think it's ok for us to shoot our guns at sharks.... I mean we have to make sure they know we are the dominant species. Lol.

 

100% aggree... Fishing is better every year for the last 7-8 years where I am

 

I agree with everything you said. Exept the shooting part. I have also seen what a 12 ga. does when shark fishing. If you did any damage the shark was at the surface.

As for everyone that is all about the sharks well being and not the surfer... I'd love to see you in a sharks mouth telling someone "stay away, I'm on his turf so I deserve this."

I'm all for conservation, but too many take it too far. Especially around here on the EC. We've had strict regs my entire life. Atlantic Whites have been protected for 20 years. Enough about the poor sharks and how you get what you deserve if you enter the ocean.

 

If I was being eaten alive by a shark, I'd bee yelling for the gun toters to shoot me. On a related note, I told my wife that when I die, My last wish is that she either:
1, take my carcass out on a boat and feed me to sharks off shore
2, put me in a big aquarium, and at the wake, hand out live piranha for people to toss in with me.

 

Making a decision based on risk vs. reward is not the same mentality as "you got what you deserved", we all weigh risk vs reward when we enter the ocean. And there's a big difference b/t helping someone in peril and a vengeance killing.

 

If they wanted to kill the shark, they should have put a scuba tank in it's mouth and shot that... get it. LOL