To Shoot or not to shoot

I don't know... but if I witnessed a friend or whatever being consumed by a shark and it was still just moments after the attack and I saw the shark walking down the street.... I'd shoot his a$$.

 

Stop appologizing for being the dominant species! Sometimes you need to cull the herd. This animal now sees people as a food source and is more dangerous than it ever was before.... Knowledge is power and this shark just learned a tasty lesson.

Animals are driven by food and sex. I don't think this shark was trying to F anything.

 

Clemson you bring up a good point... Im getting kinda sick of this nature loving be gentle with everything one with the universe zen fairy bull sh&t that some surfers display by proudly jumping up on a soap box and proclaiming that sharks must be cared for. F-them man. Life is violent. Life is a struggle. Life is deadly and Life finds a way.... not one living creature is promised anything but death. If a shark eats a person, well don't be surprised if someone tries to bust a cap in its a$$.
Lol... Im gonna see if I can get a water proof case for my shotgun... maybe on craigslist or something...

 

I read anther article about this same incident and it stated that the sharks carcass washed up on shore 30 minutes after the shooting, so it said that the shots were lethal.

I am not really pissed that they did so either. As surfers, we feel that we need to protect the ocean and its inhabitants, but at the end of the day, the whole "top of the food chain" stuff isn't exactly true. We can all buy shark meat in our local grocery stores. We have all tried shark tacos and many other kinds of shark product... At least I have... So while we fish for these animals (certain species are endangered etc, which are excluded) but for the most part, the only reason we dont kill more sharks for food and fins etc. is simply because its regulated...

So what is the difference between people fishing for the animals and killing them, or popping off 20 rounds because they are attacking tourists in a tourist driven town? Is it wrong for the people of NZ to protect their waters for humans, which drives their local economy? They also go after sharks in Hawaii when they attack. Every time... Not saying that they used shotguns on the fish, but they certainly dont turn the other cheek. This practice is common place, and if that was your brother or your father in the water, you may have thanked the shooter...

Not sure where I "officially" stand on this, but I head all too often about the whole, "Once you are in the water, mother nature has all control and you have to live with it..." I say yes and no on that one... If I was out on a SUP in the islands, and a big boy started poking at me or getting aggressive and I have a 9mil on my hip, I would point and shoot immediately... Just saying. Human nature.

 

Why bother w/ the shotty if it's not going to do anything as you so vehemently proposed earlier...and for the record, I'm personally not on some hippy dippy bulls**t, I could just care less. As far as humanity at the top of the food chain, as a whole, maybe, but for the most part, the average human couldn't survive two weeks w/out electricity, grocery stores, all the crap we depend on on a daily basis. We should be forced back into a state of true natural selection, it'd do our collective gene pool some good. And Darwinism gets so misinterpreted and twisted for the sake of debate, probably more so than Christianity.

 

The thing that puts humans apart from the rest of the food chain and nature is the way that we do things. Not the end result... Just because we use slaughter houses, conveyer belts and mass production sets us apart... Because we dont fish with our bare hands, rather we use fishing boats and lines... At the end of the day, we are just incredibly advanced animals.... If sharks were truly at the top of the food chain, they would use other fish to do their dirty work, while sitting back and using no energy.... If we wanted sharks dead, we could and would simply kill them, like we do with everything else... If you are really hungry as a human, screw the fishing laws and throw a grenade in the lake and then eat up.... The end result of what we do as humans is all the same... If any creature on earth is a threat, we eliminate it for the sake of safety and to keep our species going... We will only use the ocean and the water more and more in the future, so with that being said, expect a lot of things in "nature" to get shot the **** up...

 

I vehemently propose that I did not vehemently propose anything... besides you concentrated on the wrong part of my post.

 

Most of the NE was with out electricity and all the crap we depend on. It sucks, but we survived.
So... Bullets don't work under water. And peeps are tougher than you think.

 

Not to derail the thread but how many would have made it without support from govt agencies? Or how many would have made if they were truly on their own?

 

Most of the NE, Really? Definitely an overstatement, maybe most of the tri-state area's coastline.

 

I think most people would have made it under the circumstances with no govt help(Im still without govt help).... for example... I was heating up my soup over candles.... so that I could enjoy luke warm soup. I would also boil water over candles (which took a long arse time) and make my coffee that way... I did that for 8 days before I finally had to abandon ship and stay with family elsewhere. But I could have survived even longer.
Now... if I had no food and was dropped into the middle of the forest... well that's a different story...

 

the lesson learned that is to make sure you have a camp stove with plenty of fuel for the next time. Not quite a doomsday prepper but my house is pretty well stocked with food and ammo.

 

With ya on that...add alternative heating source and wood/pellets/whatever fuel you need if you live up north. If we were truly disrupted for whatever the reason it'd be impossible to survive the winter without it.

 

lots of people overlook 22 LR as well. great for shooting rabbits and squirrels for fresh meat.

 

Absolutely, and relatively cheap. Although one can never have enough, glad I picked up what .223 I have when I did, stuff is impossible to get around here these days.

 

wanna sell some? I need .223 sniper rounds badly.

 

Maybe once I get a bit more, not completely satisfied with the amount I have. Will keep you in mind though if I come across some.

 

I usually reload but can't even find powder.

 

It's pretty out of control at the moment.