Slater/Parko Drop-in

Discussion in 'All Discussions' started by bungalowparkbob, Mar 14, 2013.

  1. bungalowparkbob

    bungalowparkbob Well-Known Member

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    Jan 21, 2013
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OeTcPueEWkU

    Slater is obviously the ultimate competitor, and the rules dictate that this move was well within his "priority" rights. But I think the understood and universally accepted surfing etiquette should carry over to contest priority rules in this situation. When Parko was already driving through a perfect tube like that, the wave should be his regardless of priority. Maybe the rule should apply only at take-off? If he rode that through it would have been the wave of the contest.

    Glad to see Slater win though. The still shot of Parko flipping him off from the shoulder is classic!
     
  2. 252surfer

    252surfer Well-Known Member

    Dec 1, 2010
    yea that still shot is all-time haha.
     

  3. Mad Dog

    Mad Dog Well-Known Member

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    Sep 14, 2012
    The rules are there for a reason and they both clearly understood them. Parko would have done the same thing had he been in Kelly's position.
     
  4. njsurfer42

    njsurfer42 Well-Known Member

    Nov 9, 2009
    competition is different than regular surfing. there's a LOT that goes on in the water during a heat that would be unacceptable to us every day surfers, esp. in 3 or 4 man heats.
    i have no problem w/ what slater did...as you said, he's an intense competitor & will make use of everything he can to secure the win. parko knows this, which is why it hasn't really been made a big deal of, i think. it's not like the back-paddle mess from the 90's when slater paddled behind shane beschan at huntington to force an interference call. i also don't think slater would've done it if the wave had been a poor one, but it seems fairly obvious that it could've swung the final in parko's favor, so he exercised his priority & dropped in. i don't doubt that fanning or parko would've done the same in that position.
     
  5. MFitz73

    MFitz73 Well-Known Member

    Aug 21, 2010
    lol. how can anyone have a problem with this? In a competition, having priority, the heat on the line.... You don't get to be a champion by being nice.
     
  6. njsurfer42

    njsurfer42 Well-Known Member

    Nov 9, 2009
    exactly. nowhere in slater's decision did the thought that parko's wave would be an awesome wave for the spectators & armchair pundits to watch cross his mind. all he thought was, "crap, if he makes this i won't win. oh wait, i've got priority. sorry parko, i'm stuffing you on this one."
     
  7. live4truth

    live4truth Well-Known Member

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    Feb 9, 2007
    that was my favorite move of the entire contest...! Slater's a real competitor...uses the rules to his advantage. However, it could of been worse though...there could of been a Dean Morrison repeat.
     
  8. DawnPatrol321

    DawnPatrol321 Well-Known Member

    Mar 6, 2012
    Seems like a solid move on Slater's part. Parko would of done the same if the situation was reversed.
     
  9. McLovin

    McLovin Well-Known Member

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    Jun 27, 2010
    I wonder if Parko would've made it out of that wave anyway since Kelly barely did
     
  10. bungalowparkbob

    bungalowparkbob Well-Known Member

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    Jan 21, 2013
    I agree that given the rules (and the goal of a contest is to WIN) any competitor would and should do the same thing. The rules are in place for a reason, but where is the reason behind the priority rule in this case? Priority was established to create order and civility when positioning is an issue and guys are scrapping shoulder to shoulder for waves, not create an offense/defense dynamic.
    Obviously it's a competitive advantage to keep someone from completing a high scoring ride. The rule just doesn't make sense to me in pointbreak surf when utilized like it was in this case. It detracts from the actual surfing, which is what the athletes are being judged on.
     
  11. bungalowparkbob

    bungalowparkbob Well-Known Member

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    Jan 21, 2013
    I would have liked to see if he made the wave...
     
  12. Swellinfo

    Swellinfo Administrator

    May 19, 2006
    Should there be some limitations to the priority rule?
    If the surfer without priority is riding a wave well before the surfer with priority even paddles for the wave, then maybe the surfer with priority doesn't have a right to that wave. Makes sense to me.
     
  13. zach619

    zach619 Well-Known Member

    Jan 21, 2009
    Thats just straight up competition priority. It has to be there... That was actually not the worse instance of it during this contest... I think it was the 4th round heats, Brett Simpson got a crap wave, pulled off immediately to paddle back to the peak... The other guy was like 100 yards back coming back to the point. Simpson basically took off on another wave before the guy even got back in position, and he got hit with a penalty for breaking the priority rules. In the interview after the heat, he and all the guys were pissed about it. He was saying "It was a sh** wave, I obviously jumped right off the back so that I didnt have to lose priority... The other guy was sitting out of position thinking Brett maintain his priority and the judges dinged him... That was a shame... Simpson would have advanced... it was a bogus call. That was way worse than the slater incident... Everyone was pissed just because it was suck a sick wave... and in my opinion, Parko was too far back and it would have closed out... Maybe he would have had a miracle... He is insane in the barrel... But I think he would have blown it anyway.
     
  14. scotty

    scotty Well-Known Member

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    Aug 26, 2008
    Thats interesting....i dont even understand how Brett Simpson broke priority rules in that situation you describe. I thought that the guy WITHOUT priority (Simpson) could still take off on a wave, as long as he was IN NO WAY interfering with the guy who at that point had priority (The other contestant 100 yards away)

    In other words, Simpson could take off on a crap wave and kick out - lose priority - and then still take off on a second wave and get scored - as long as the other surfer (now with priority) didnt go after the second wave.
     
    Last edited: Mar 14, 2013
  15. StuckontheGulf

    StuckontheGulf Well-Known Member

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    Apr 23, 2012
    Does Parko have to stand down when Kelly took off? I don't think he would have made it anyway but it would have been cool to come blasting from behind out of the barrel.
     
  16. MrMacdugal

    MrMacdugal Well-Known Member

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    Aug 19, 2011
    Kelly was totally right for doing what he did. He wanted to secure the victory, knows the rules and used them to his advantage. It would have been so sick to see if Parko could have made that wave, but it was like a 50/50 I think.
    That heat was so sick! The whole time I was yelling and screaming like it was a football game or something(I am not really into team sports though)
    I think Surfline Admin makes a valid point that should be considered. However rules are rules.
    Parko or Kelly, they both rip. Its a privilege to get to watch them surf, especially together in a final like that one!
     
  17. nynj

    nynj Well-Known Member

    Jul 27, 2012
    He had to do it... And Parko said he would do the exact same thing. If they removed the prioity rule they would just keep paddling around each other
     
  18. LI Waterman

    LI Waterman Well-Known Member

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    Dec 23, 2012
    Hes the world champ in a tight heat.. give him a little credit
     
  19. Riley Martin's Disgruntled Neighbor

    Riley Martin's Disgruntled Neighbor Well-Known Member

    Aug 22, 2012
    Even with all the world titles, appearing on BayWatch, sponsorships, dating Pamela, and the ability to say he's surfed pretty much every good wave on the globe, his name is still Kelly. Perhaps its like Cash's song 'Boy named Sue.'
     
  20. njsurfer42

    njsurfer42 Well-Known Member

    Nov 9, 2009
    kelly is his middle name; his first name is robert.