Explosion at Boston Marathon!

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  1. aka pumpmaster

    aka pumpmaster Well-Known Member

    Apr 30, 2008
    beat me to it
     
  2. chicharronne

    chicharronne Well-Known Member

    Jun 22, 2006
    can't we all just get along? like these guys?
    [video]http://www.wimp.com/orangutandog/[/video]
     

  3. Plover

    Plover Active Member

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    May 12, 2012
    hey geniuses, what if was a morman, a christian, a vegan, a republican........the responsibility falls on their group to get its act together?
     
  4. newenglandflatness

    newenglandflatness Well-Known Member

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    Oct 12, 2012
    What if it's discovered that another caucasian-american has committed a massacre on our land? Oklahoma City? Newtown? Aurora? Columbine? The responsibility falls on the INDIVIDUAL OR GROUP who committed this heinous act, as it did in other tragedies that have shocked this nation.

    And if it were to be another Muslim? That doesn't change the fact that the vast majority of Muslims in this country are ordinary people who would never commit such atrocities, and condemning them as a population is irresponsible. Countless leading Muslim-American groups have already spoken against these actions. Are you responsible for making sure that others in your demographic don't commit such acts? That's a lazy way to pass the buck on a nationwide epidemic of violence.

    Edited to acknowledge that this was potentially a group of people and not a single person.
     
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  5. newenglandflatness

    newenglandflatness Well-Known Member

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    Oct 12, 2012
    "beat me to it"
     
  6. mass surf

    mass surf Member

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    Jun 10, 2011
    Really logical... First, no one even knows if this was committed by a Muslim American so to even consider it a terrorist attack is wrong. And even if it was, it is ridiculous to ask for the cooperation of the Muslim-American communitty and tell them to step up considering 99.9% is just as American as anyone on here, and would never dream of doing something such as this. Do some research and find out how many civilians are dying in the Middle East at the hands of the United States. Not trying to degrade and hate on the United States, but theres alot more to the story
     
  7. chicharronne

    chicharronne Well-Known Member

    Jun 22, 2006
    Here's the first clue. It's a fat guy with a fez

    [video=youtube;H5U5LiHnutw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5U5LiHnutw&feature=player_embedded[/video]
     
  8. trevolution

    trevolution Well-Known Member

    Feb 16, 2012
    what was so ridiculous about it. i dont think they were out of line, its not like they were spewing a buncha conspiracy crap like alex jones
     
  9. MFitz73

    MFitz73 Well-Known Member

    Aug 21, 2010
    sure no one knows. that's why I said, if its discovered to be.... guessing I would say that it was either a white guy or someone of muslim faith.

    But to the point of the muslim american population better get its act together... as a society we exhibit group behaviour that is measurable accross different races. For example.... when the irish first came to america... they were confronted with racism. "irish need not apply" in every store window. they lived in slums. collectively a large number of irish became police officers and other civil servants.... all that prejudice sh$t came to an end and they became productive members of our society.
    The good and honest muslim americans are going to suffer as time goes on if muslims continue to carry out terror acts here in america. no matter whats going on abroad. There won't be any stopping the stereotyping that naturally occurs when repeated acts are carried out by people of the same race/religion. That's why the changes must be spearheaded from with in the muslim community.... or would you rather every muslim suffer under racial profiling?
     
  10. trevolution

    trevolution Well-Known Member

    Feb 16, 2012
    god your ignorant man. your talking as if no muslim americans are productive social servants. The "muslims" as you characterize them are no more responsible for terrorist attacks then "christians" are for the atrocities the KKK commits.
     
  11. DawnPatrol321

    DawnPatrol321 Well-Known Member

    Mar 6, 2012
    Why not just wait and see who did this before we start suggesting who is responsible. Until we know who did it all we are doing is just throwing mud at the walls and hoping some sticks. When the facts are found, then we all can have more intelligent conversation / debate on this.
     
  12. newenglandflatness

    newenglandflatness Well-Known Member

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    Oct 12, 2012
    To start, Islam is A RELIGION, not a race, so it's really not all that comprable to the Irish coming to America. Muslims come from a diverse ethnic and racial background.

    The stereotyping that "naturally occurs" is only propagated by comments like yours. The Muslim-American population is no different than any other demographic. It's not their responsibility to make the rest of the country cease its bigotry. It's your responsibility, and mine, and everyone else's, NOT to make generalizations based on an individual's religion, race, or ethnicity.

    What do you propose Muslim-Americans do to spearhead this change? Become everyday members of society? THEY ARE. You want more Muslim police officers? At that point you'll change your views? There are plenty. How about the Muslim-Americans that constitute some of the leading healthcare professionals in the country? Not enough for you? We can play this game all day. Take responsibility for how you view the world, and get out from under this guise of societal group behavior s*** you're spewing. It's not the job of Muslim-Americans to make people see Muslims as humans like you and me.
     
  13. newenglandflatness

    newenglandflatness Well-Known Member

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    Oct 12, 2012
    I completely concur. My original post was intended only to stop people from recklessly blaming easy targets.
     
  14. trevolution

    trevolution Well-Known Member

    Feb 16, 2012
    this this this
     
  15. MFitz73

    MFitz73 Well-Known Member

    Aug 21, 2010
    learn how to digest the content of the written language. Im talking about the good and honest muslims in america ultimately suffering from the what the animal extremists continue to do under the name of islam. I probably know more muslims than you do. And I feel badly for them because I know that when most americans are asked what a terrorist looks like, the image of a muslim appears in their mind. And if this boston bombing is found to be another muslim.... then what?
     
  16. MFitz73

    MFitz73 Well-Known Member

    Aug 21, 2010
    ok to start I didnt mention Islam.
     
  17. newenglandflatness

    newenglandflatness Well-Known Member

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    Oct 12, 2012
    Is this a serious comment? What have we been talking about? You seem to think Muslim-Americans have a responsibility to make other people not prejudiced against them. You then used the Irish coming to the United States as a (poor, off-base) example of how this has, in your mind, happened in the past.
     
  18. trevolution

    trevolution Well-Known Member

    Feb 16, 2012
    so....you arent aware that one who practices islam is a muslim? god man not only are you ignorant your probably dumber then the sand they renourish our beaches with. Usually i would not recommend this to anyone on a surf forum but, maybe a few more days in the school learning and not in the water would have helped you have an iq higher then a rock.
     
  19. trevolution

    trevolution Well-Known Member

    Feb 16, 2012
    also, if you know more muslims then me as you claim (doubtful) then try telling them that islam sucks, but their "muslim" religion is cool. hahaha
     
  20. MFitz73

    MFitz73 Well-Known Member

    Aug 21, 2010
    yeah definite. there was strong headwind against the irish in america. they solved it as a group. and they did well. explain what part you have trouble digesting...
     
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