A roy stewart inspired longboard

Discussion in 'Surfboards and Surfboard Design' started by Steve83, Apr 18, 2013.

  1. MFitz73

    MFitz73 Well-Known Member

    Aug 21, 2010
    Steve, if it cost you $700 to make the board.... it most likely costs Roy $500 to $700 to make the board.
    so... $500,000.00 minus $700.00 = $499,300.00 profit. its pretty easy to see why people can not and will not take Roy or his kook boards seriously. If I had to guess Roy has probably never sold 1 surfboard at those price levels.
     
  2. Roy Stuart

    Roy Stuart Well-Known Member

    Jan 27, 2013
    A few communists on this thread I see!
     

  3. Roy Stuart

    Roy Stuart Well-Known Member

    Jan 27, 2013

    Indeed we are.
     
  4. Roy Stuart

    Roy Stuart Well-Known Member

    Jan 27, 2013
    Your calculation is incorrect, both the cost, the price and the profit figure are way out.

    For a start I don't have any boards for sale at $500k, and gross profit is misleading anyway.

    The 'Hotkurl' price is USD $1.47 million, the board will be featuring this year two luxury magazines one of which specified that they will only feature boards of ours with prices greater than one million.

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  5. yankee

    yankee Well-Known Member

    Sep 26, 2008
    'Luxury mags' are produced by sycophants for a miniscule reading audience of wankers. But, hey, if that's your marketplace...play on, Stuart, play on.
     
  6. yankee

    yankee Well-Known Member

    Sep 26, 2008
    None of us on this board are part of any group, Stuart. You can drop the persecution complex that you're salivating over, there in your wood-chip laden bunker.

    You're not an enemy of anyone here. People just don't respect your blatant attempts to rip off surfers.

    You're just a ****. A self-centered, narcissistic, poseur ****. Maybe in New Zealand that's a place of honor, but in America that means you're a phony. It also means people take you to accountability. It means we tire quickly of your asinine tactic of 'if i say it's factual, it's up to you to prove me wrong.'

    No, Roy, no. Just because you say it's so, and that your board is worth over a million dollars, does not make it so. Ask Randy Rarick about when he test-rode one of your boards. And then wrote it up as the laughable piece of kindling that it is.

    No one from the intelligent people who post on this board hates you. (Well, maybe the Shredmachine does because you didn't give him dibs on your pile of kindling to shott the roller coaster, but Shredmachine is, like you, in a world of his own making.)

    So don't impose your BS world upon us.
    Stop using your well-honed scam game to stick it to people for grotesque profits for yourself.
    And stay away from the sheep there in NZ. They've addled your wee mind.
     
  7. Roy Stuart

    Roy Stuart Well-Known Member

    Jan 27, 2013
    I disagree, one could easily make the case that any person is part of an infinite number of groups, in this case though I'm only identifying those who are part of a group think mind set.


    Rip off?

    That's not the case... I merely offer surfboards for sale, purchase is not compulsory.

    Philosophically speaking any behaviour can be categorised as self centred by definition.

    Narcissistic? That's wide of the mark as unlike Narcissus, I am married and have children.

    Poseur? If you say so.


    Value is subjective.

    He kooked it.


    To make it clear: I am free to post... you are free to ignore.

    That's how it works.

    You are attempting to order me to stop advertising such prices?

    If so you will be disappointed to learn that I decline, and that my boards will be featuring this year in two luxury magazines, with a combined readership of over 1.5 million. The editor of one of these magazines specifically stated that he only wanted to feature those of my boards with a price of over a million USD. Currently there are three such surfboards.

    You don't understand how the top end luxury market works.

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  8. Roy Stuart

    Roy Stuart Well-Known Member

    Jan 27, 2013
    Anyway, this thread is about Steve's board not mine.

    No need for you types to rain on his parade.... get a life.
     
  9. MFitz73

    MFitz73 Well-Known Member

    Aug 21, 2010
    Roy, the worst thing that could happen to you is have this guy Steve make a board identical to yours for USD $700.00

    Im very curious, where does your production add USD $999,3000.00????
     
  10. Roy Stuart

    Roy Stuart Well-Known Member

    Jan 27, 2013
    Not at all, I've been selling plans and kitsets for these boards since 2004 and have been actively encouraging people to build their own.

    Steve's board is by no means identical to the Earl either, since both the plan shape and rocker differ from the original.


    I have no idea where you got that figure from, but the price is determined by factors other than materials plus normal labour costs.

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  11. MFitz73

    MFitz73 Well-Known Member

    Aug 21, 2010
    Like what? what else is there beside labor, material and skill? do you add magic? I guess you have to if you want your board to actually work. lol.
     
  12. MFitz73

    MFitz73 Well-Known Member

    Aug 21, 2010
    Roy, you would probably have a very good business if you priced these boards 10 to 20% over what it costs to produce them. I would guess you could sell them a bit higher... maybe $2,000.00 and I bet you would sell 10 to 20 a year. Instead you don't sell any boards and make, probably, peanuts.
     
  13. Roy Stuart

    Roy Stuart Well-Known Member

    Jan 27, 2013
    Yes we do.
     
  14. Roy Stuart

    Roy Stuart Well-Known Member

    Jan 27, 2013
    Surfboards are not our only line, we do a good trade in plans, kitsets, blanks, wax, and sunblock.

    I do not wish to make 20 surfboards a year, and if I want your advice you'll be the first to know.

    Cheers.
     
  15. Roy Stuart

    Roy Stuart Well-Known Member

    Jan 27, 2013

    Cups of tea.
     
  16. GoodVibes

    GoodVibes Well-Known Member

    Jun 29, 2008
    Word on the street is that sunblock is bad for you.
     
  17. yankee

    yankee Well-Known Member

    Sep 26, 2008
    Speaking from experience, there, RoyToy?

    New Zealand is about as Socialist as they roll.
     
  18. yankee

    yankee Well-Known Member

    Sep 26, 2008
    Another hallmark of the classic scammer: he's got it all figured out, 'cause he knows something the rest of the human race isn't privy to. And that makes him special. And that makes his offering special. And goobers fall in line like mesmerized, brainwashed asshats in order to shell out their valuable money for the mysterious special sauce.

    And that's how you get Madoff, and MF Global, and politicians & Roy Stuart.

    Stuart's just another in a long line of scammin' slammers, and there's plenty of 'em from his home isle of NZ.
     
  19. Steve83

    Steve83 Well-Known Member

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    Apr 17, 2013
    I posted an estimated $700 for materials.
    I built the board over a three month period. However I believe I have (roughly) 160 hours in labor.
    So if my labor rate was $25 an hour and I included materials the price tag would be 4,700.

    If my labor rate was $15 dollars an hour and I included materials the price tag would be 3,100.

    Since this board was built by an "average joe" (myself), what would the price be...........?

    I felt this would be a good question to the forum readers.
     
  20. brewengineer

    brewengineer Well-Known Member

    Jun 22, 2011
    If you asked $5000 for the board, I would not fault you for that. If you asked for $7000, I would think that is a little steep but still would not give you a hard time. If you asked for $1.5 million, I would tell you to speak to a therapist.