Natural sunscreens

Discussion in 'All Discussions' started by archy 2.0, Jun 9, 2013.

  1. archy 2.0

    archy 2.0 Well-Known Member

    Jul 5, 2012
  2. nynj

    nynj Well-Known Member

    Jul 27, 2012
    Have you used it? Does it work as good as the normal stuff?
    There is a lot of bad sh*t in sunblock.
     

  3. archy 2.0

    archy 2.0 Well-Known Member

    Jul 5, 2012
    I haven't used that brand personally. Kelly Slater uses it, so my guess is it must work.
    like I said, I make my own,( coconut oil+beeswax+zinc oxide powder), and it works great. no burns for me.
     
  4. brewengineer

    brewengineer Well-Known Member

    Jun 22, 2011
    They work, cause zinc oxide works. However, you must use a lot more than the chemical stuff.
    http://articles.latimes.com/2010/jun/27/image/la-ig-naturalsunscreen-20100627

    Apply heavily. Also, natural sunscreen may not be 100% safe. Still, the health risks that come from using no sunscreen are a lot worse than any risk from the chemicals in natural or chemical sunscreens. I know a few guys that swear by the natural stuff, but they definitely get the white residue all over. Protection>looks.
     
  5. archy 2.0

    archy 2.0 Well-Known Member

    Jul 5, 2012
    yeah, if your concerned with looks it may be a no go. if i'm surfing all day I personally don't care. just remember your body needs sun, and if you consume enough dark green leafy veggies, you body can help protect you for a while. if your out in the middle of the day, in the garden or whatever, in my opinion its best to cover up (hat, white shirt, beach umbrella). and also if you purchase or make your own,make sure it doesn't contain NANO particulates of zinc or titanium oxide which can enter through the pores of your skin. much of the popular chemical based brands on the market use nano technology based chems, like the srpay sunscreen. so I would advise to avoid these altogether, cuz that stuffs goin right in your body.
     
  6. beaner

    beaner Well-Known Member

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    Jun 4, 2006
    check out the environmental working group's sunscreen guide if you want something commercially produced. They rate the sunscreens based on the type of ingredients used and how those ingredients impact the endocrine system. http://www.ewg.org/2013sunscreen/
     
  7. ukelelesurf

    ukelelesurf Well-Known Member

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    Apr 25, 2007
  8. brewengineer

    brewengineer Well-Known Member

    Jun 22, 2011
  9. mathew

    mathew Member

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    Jun 10, 2013
    I haven't used that brand personally.It is just fine and seems to be best in general use.I am loyal to this brand.The company is great with his product line.





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  10. Liamsdad

    Liamsdad Well-Known Member

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    Dec 24, 2011
    The Aubrey green tea sounds good but does anyone know how often it needs to be reapplied?
     
  11. robgnyc

    robgnyc Active Member

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    Apr 29, 2013
    Worst burn I've ever had recently was when I switched from supposedly "bad" Neutragena with avobenzene to the top rated all natural Badger brand sunblock based on the EWG recommendation.

    I'm not entirely convinced that the science supports avoiding many of the ingredients that they don't like. Personally I use the Neutragena stuff for my body and Shishedo which is titanium dioxide based (possibly micro particles, not sure) on my face.

    "All natural" is not necessarily better.

     
  12. OBlove

    OBlove Well-Known Member

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    Aug 29, 2006
    EWG level 1

    I didn't read through all of the posts before this, but become familiar with EWG and their rating for suncare products:

    http://www.ewg.org/2013sunscreen/be...2SunscreenAd&gclid=CJ2f9q3827cCFYuZ4AodMjEASg

    As surfers and active people, you will want to use level 1's on your face, and cover up the rest of your body. Even a level 1 compound contains the proper ingrediants to produce increased levels of estrogen in your body - male or female. The level 1's will limit this production by 90%, but like someone else already noted, that 10% of chemical that is going into your body is far better then the big "M."

    The 2 products that I use - but be warned are quite costly - are Badger and Aubrey: (...and as far as I know, that **** Kelly uses is **** & I bet he doesn't even use it)

    http://www.ewg.org/2013sunscreen/ab...cs_Natural_Sun_Sunscreen,_Green_Tea,_SPF_30+/

    http://www.ewg.org/2013sunscreen/ab..._Broad_Spectrum_Sunscreen,_Unscented,_SPF_34/

    Both can be found at Amazon, though they are actually shipping directly from their factory (Not from the Amazon warehouse - I am not positive if they are within the free shipping for PRIME members categories.)
     
  13. MFitz73

    MFitz73 Well-Known Member

    Aug 21, 2010
    the guy in the 2nd video link looks like he has A LOT of sun damage on his skin... his hands look pretty toasted.
     
  14. brewengineer

    brewengineer Well-Known Member

    Jun 22, 2011
    Did you go heavy on the natural stuff? They suggest you use a lot more than you would with the chemical based stuff. I do agree that natural is not necessarily better. I still use chemical lotion a lot. It is super effective and takes very little to work. Even the natural stuff contains some possibly harmful compounds, so you have to keep that in mind when choosing a sunscreen.
     
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  15. OBlove

    OBlove Well-Known Member

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    Aug 29, 2006
    There arw WAAAAAYYYYYY too many variables for you to say "the natural stuff left me worse off..."
    1. Were you surfing near the equator?
    2. What was your diet like for the 30 days prior to your expierence with natural suncare?
    3. What was the ozone level at that day?
    4. What was the temp that day?
    5. How long were you in the water?
    6. Were you sweating heavily for or aft?
    7. What did you wash your skin with the day before? (If you said soap, you have just caused another problem)
    8. Were you drinking alcohol at the time?
    9. Duckdiving 1Xper/1min. will have a far different result then if you were to duckdive 10Xper/1min.

    ***Remember, the discussions & arguments behind EWG is BALANCING the "toxic poisons & suncare." You have to find the balance even if that means applying more!***

    And 10 minutes of direct sun on untreated skin between the hours of 10AM-1PM breaks down cholesterol in your skin and forms it into VitD (10,000ITU's worth) and the only other way to get even 1/4th of that is to eat 20 raw-yellow-full-bloom-dandylions per day.
     
  16. robgnyc

    robgnyc Active Member

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    Apr 29, 2013
    Certainly not a scientific comparison but I basically used the Badger the same way I would use the Neutragena at the same beach (New York) for the same period of time at the same time of the year (summer).

    Personally, I'm lazy. If using natural sunscreens requires that much extra care, then I'm going to burn which will supersede any benefit I'm getting from using them.

    Neutragena for a day at the beach and Shishedo stick on my face when I'm surfing or in the water. Looks like makeup, costs a lot, but I just surfed for six hours a day in Nicaragua for 10 days without burning despite being on a boat for part of the time. Got turned on to it by something I read about a lot of pro surfers using it. Seems very much like Vetra but with more feminine branding.

    Your individual body chemistry may vary....



     
  17. DawnPatrol321

    DawnPatrol321 Well-Known Member

    Mar 6, 2012
    You guys crack me up, Coppertone Sport 55 Stick for the face and SPF 30 lotion for the body, keeps me from burning and allows me to tan some. I also keep a bottle of Waterman's SPF55 that I use from time to time but it's so expensive that it save it for super scorching days. Oh, what if it gives me cancer? What if a frog had wings?