Building the 6'6" Gang Buster. Roy Stuarts Parallel Profile construction method.

Discussion in 'Surfboards and Surfboard Design' started by Cuck Taylor, Jul 7, 2013.

  1. Cuck Taylor

    Cuck Taylor Well-Known Member

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    Jul 6, 2013
    Here in this thread my goal is to share my wood working with anyone who cares to look. I am open to advice and suggestions from anyone with a solid understanding of surfboard shaping. I will share the entire build process as best as I can. I hope my work can give others some ideas on building a surfboard from wood.
     

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  2. waterbaby

    waterbaby Well-Known Member

    Oct 1, 2012
    lookin good...but that thing is going to crack you open if you get hit by it
     

  3. Erock

    Erock Well-Known Member

    Aug 6, 2011
    That's an interesting variant--incorporating the torsion frame into the edge veneers. I can't picture what you're trying to accomplish with the concave, so I'm very interested to see what your plan is.


    Dude, I gotta ask... What's up with the pony?
     
  4. Cuck Taylor

    Cuck Taylor Well-Known Member

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    Jul 6, 2013
    Thats our friend Daniel Tosh holding the baby horse..
    Im not using any veneer on this board its all solid wood construction. Made with clear vertical grain western red cedar. (the otherwise useless scraps from my furniture shop).. My goal with the concave is to first practice a laminating technique to see how easily I can do it and secondly I believe that the concave will work nicely with a harder rail shape such as an 80/20 down rail. it will be a continuous concave through the whole board length. Also only a slight concave maybe 1/8th inch deep, really depends how the lamination goes. any thoughts on rail shape with concave tho? like I said in the opening post Id love to hear some thoughts from people. I am merely a novice surfboard builder and know very little, I just want to make myself a quiver. THanks
     
  5. GoodVibes

    GoodVibes Well-Known Member

    Jun 29, 2008
    Very,very interesting:confused:
     
  6. sisurfdogg

    sisurfdogg Well-Known Member

    Jun 17, 2013
    What kind of rocker are you going for, and how?
     
  7. Cuck Taylor

    Cuck Taylor Well-Known Member

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    Jul 6, 2013
    in the picture you can see my rocker jig. thats what I will be laminating the 4 layers on. 4 layers being the deck first, then the two internal panels followed by the bottom. the rocker jig basically shows the shape of the rocker that the board will have after all the layers are laminated together. photo-6.jpg photo-3.jpg
     
  8. Steve83

    Steve83 Well-Known Member

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    Apr 17, 2013
    Wow very nice work!
     
  9. Cuck Taylor

    Cuck Taylor Well-Known Member

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    Jul 6, 2013
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    The deck and the first frame and block panel are laminated. The concave appears to have gone in nicely after the first round of molding.
     
  10. Cuck Taylor

    Cuck Taylor Well-Known Member

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    Jul 6, 2013
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    Pasting a heavy layer of west system epoxy. I mixed the epoxy with micro fibers to thicken and also some wood flour I extracted from the drum sander vacum collector.
     
  11. LBCrew

    LBCrew Well-Known Member

    Aug 12, 2009
    Bravo, brother... that's what it's all about.

    I think you're on the right track with the 80/20 down rail with the concave. That's a pretty basic, reliable design. Lowering the rail apex will create a hard turn at the bottom of the rail radius, into the bottom, at the edge of your concave. Your tail looks pretty wide from the pics, so I'd keep it soft... no hard edge... so you're not fighting the planing force, and it rolls over onto the rail a little easier.
     
  12. ClemsonSurf

    ClemsonSurf Well-Known Member

    Dec 10, 2007
    What's with the RS style board naming? I've made a coule of boards and I call them "this one" and "that one" interchangeably. Same with my foam boards.

    RS has a dislike for "fishbone" constructed boards. Why do you like the torsion box construction? From your pics, it looks like this thing is going to be heavy from the thick rails and the closely spaced boxes. How much are you expecting it to weigh?

    I guess I'm partial to the fishbone boards. There are plenty of voids that are weightless and the rail construction is significantly thinner all making it more bouyant IMO.

    What are you using for your vent?
     
  13. Cuck Taylor

    Cuck Taylor Well-Known Member

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    Jul 6, 2013
    I gave this one a definitive name because I intend to replicate it and I want something that is unique but still identifiable to be mine. Roy gives his boards cool names which I think adds to the unique and rare element. Any piece of art needs a name or distinctive title I guess..

    Im most certainly not opposed to the fish bone framing method of surfboards, thats what I started with and they have proven to be a great way of making boards, like Grain surfboard for example, I love those things and they're proven to rip! I am experimenting with the torsion box out of curiosity I can't say for sure if I think its better. I like the torsion box flexibility tho, thats for sure. The torsion box has its limits perhaps in that the nose and tail can't taper in thickness but Im not sure if that really matters.. so far I don't think it does for the type of surfer I am.

    the rails appear thick in the image but you need to remember that I will be trimming out the plan shape, thus eliminating a good portion of the rail blocking seen in the image. I expect the board after resin coating to weigh around 30 lbs.. I hope no more. I will post its weight after I get to that point of the build. Im excited to find out.
    I will be using a 4" stainless steel boat fitting for the vent, similar to what Roy puts in his boards.
     
  14. yankee

    yankee Well-Known Member

    Sep 26, 2008
    Similar to what the gnome puts in his Kool Aid.

    No wonder the gnome & 'charles taylor' (yeah...ok) write the same.
     
  15. Cuck Taylor

    Cuck Taylor Well-Known Member

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    Jul 6, 2013
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    3/4" or concave in the middle tapering out towards the tail and nose.
     
  16. ClemsonSurf

    ClemsonSurf Well-Known Member

    Dec 10, 2007
    Looking good man, I'll give you $300,000 for it.
     
  17. Cuck Taylor

    Cuck Taylor Well-Known Member

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    Jul 6, 2013
    Haha right. If someone wanted to take if off my hands id feel good about 1,500 considering the time and cost of materials I have into it so far. But I'm making these for myself so dollar value isn't important.
     
  18. Steve83

    Steve83 Well-Known Member

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    Apr 17, 2013
    Looking very nice and 1500 would be a fair price in my opinion. I understand exactly how much work goes into making these. If you ever do sell don't undercut yourself. Your work and time are much to valuable.
     
  19. Riley Martin's Disgruntled Neighbor

    Riley Martin's Disgruntled Neighbor Well-Known Member

    Aug 22, 2012
    +1 total hilarity.

    Let me give you my Lloyds of London contact. You'll want to insure that bad boy.
     
  20. Steve83

    Steve83 Well-Known Member

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    Apr 17, 2013
    What people usually don't understand about a properly constructed wood surfboard is the amount of man hours put into the build. Easily five times of that as a foam board....easily. Also they will last a lifetime if properly cared for. They just don't suffer the same effects as a foam surfboard ( rail/tail cancer, pressure dents). You will have those that try to haggle the price down to that or less than a foamie because your not a "famous shaper" and when you calculate the labor rate you would be working for at their price it would be more profitable for you to work at McDonald's. I think no wood surfboard builder would entertain a really lowball offer because these types of boards are not going for cheap anywhere.