I've decided I'm going to build a board

Discussion in 'Surfboards and Surfboard Design' started by Bill Cosby's nephew, Jul 22, 2013.

  1. AtanticO

    AtanticO Well-Known Member

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    Jun 25, 2013
    your itchin to use your little sawhorse! lol

    first of all, unless your a midget, its too low. and how you gonna shape rails? plus, the board will move all over the place. go watch some videos first.
     
  2. DawnPatrol321

    DawnPatrol321 Well-Known Member

    Mar 6, 2012
    Just ask the legend RS himself, he'll tell ya!
     

  3. pkovo

    pkovo Well-Known Member

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    Jun 7, 2010
    I say break out the sawhorses, grab one of your dad's sureforms, and have at it. I would make some of those junky stands with buckets, and let her rip.

    Worst case, you make a mess and a turd. I do that daily.

    My buddy did this in his parents basement many years ago. It came out decent. He picked an odd shape that none of us would normally ride (old school single fin), which was clever because no one really knows how good or bad the thing is. It sure looked cool in our apartment, and he loved it when a girl would ask about it, and he could go into how he hand made it blah blah blah.

    He had someone else glass it though. He figured the smell of resin permeating through his parents house probably wouldn't be too pleasing.

    Revealing my age here, but he did this following the steps outlined on a VHS tape from John Carpenter on how to build a surfboard. Pretty good video for teh time, but I'm sure now you can find lots of vids on youtube now that would work.
     
  4. AtanticO

    AtanticO Well-Known Member

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    Jun 25, 2013

    blank prices have doubled since then. glassing too. sh!t greenlight will charge you over $100 plus shipping. probably looking at $150 at least.

    paying someone to glass it is prob the best thing but get ready to pay $200+. and it will suck if you hack it out like a caveman. the stands coming out of buckets thing is more work and ****tier outcome then doing it right. it's like those dudes that spray-paint their own car and claim it works fine. good luck with that.

    just take a trip to greenlight first and let them teach you in a real shaping room.
     
  5. AtanticO

    AtanticO Well-Known Member

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    Jun 25, 2013
    i guess what im trying to say is, do it right and you can make boards that will work. close-tolerance blanks, templates you can print out, supply shops online, tons of available info out there... it's not out of reach to make something worthwhile a few boards into it now-a-days

    you want to pass the time? how much time? you off work for just a few days? or do you live with your parents and don't work? if the latter is the case, move out for a while and go be surf bum somewhere with consistent waves. you'll pass lots of time.
     
  6. littlerhody

    littlerhody Well-Known Member

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    Jan 16, 2009
    hilarious and true

    i have a few friends who "shape boards" their boards are awful. if you enjoy it and have fun making a ****ty quiver why not but dont expect it to be any good

     
  7. Bill Cosby's nephew

    Bill Cosby's nephew Well-Known Member

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    Jun 21, 2013
    I live at home but I work full time. I have several hours to kill every night between getting off and going to sleep. Sundays also get boring as well.
     
  8. LBCrew

    LBCrew Well-Known Member

    Aug 12, 2009
    Good, heavy racks will be your biggest step toward a decent result. Pass some time by building a good rack you can use to shape, and build T stands you can screw into them for glassing. You want them heavy... unless you're bolting them to the floor. This is good advice for a novices, hobbiests, and wannabes alike. Build 'em heavy, strong, with the right sized "yoke" and pad 'em up good.

    I wouldn't worry too much about lighting... you probably don't have the skills yet to fine tune anyway.

    Keep your shape simple... flat to vee bottom, use the natural rocker of the blank, and don't overshape (probably the number one newbie mistake).

    A hand saw, a mini trim plane, sanding block with one side padded, a surform, 60/80/100/150 grit paper, and a cheap electric planer... If you don't have one, I recommend the Bosch for a starter; affordable and decent.

    Use Epoxy... safer, slower, and no smell. You'll need all the "slower" you can get. Don't waste too much and you'll not have to spend much more than poly.

    For sanding, you'll want a variable speed sander/grinder/polisher type machine, but you can get away with a good orbital, or just get nice big Popeye arms and block it out by hand!

    Glass on your fins. No jigs, routers, etc. Tack 'em up and if they don't come out right, snap 'em off and try again.

    Also... consider taking the Brookdale class, if you're in the area. Four nights and you get your hands in there, building a board start to finish. Plus handouts and a design guide. Worth the investment, IMO.
     
    Last edited: Jul 22, 2013
  9. ClemsonSurf

    ClemsonSurf Well-Known Member

    Dec 10, 2007
    BCN, this is the only time you've added any coolness to the forum. Congrats!

    Looks like Atlantico and other's may have tried and didn't knock it out of the park the first time and quit.... so what? I bet any board you make will float at least for a while. I just finished my second hollow wooden surfboard last night. It's easily 10x better than my first one. Next one will be better than that one.

    There's a stigma with surfing that if you're not riding the most highly tuned board with space age composites that the guy next to you is riding too, you're a kook wasting your time. That's cool if you want to pay attention to that. Do you ride in contests? Will you be riding this board in contests? Probably no to both questions. Just make one and let Atlantico fight with Emass, that's what they do best.

    If you're nervous about it, get a beat up longboard and chop it up into a mini or something. This mini craze going around is making all the weirdest boards look like the coolest ones.

    If you're off by a couple cm or even inches just tell the fool that mentions it you made an asymmetrical board to help you with your frontside air reverses.
     
  10. ClemsonSurf

    ClemsonSurf Well-Known Member

    Dec 10, 2007
    This kid sounds like a naysaying kook too.
     
  11. ClemsonSurf

    ClemsonSurf Well-Known Member

    Dec 10, 2007

    Lastly, listen to this guy.
     
  12. leethestud

    leethestud Well-Known Member

    Aug 12, 2010
    yes, LBCrew gave me some critical advice on my log. Turned out really well. For the guy who says it will turn out ****ty, that is just ignorant. You get out what you put in.
     
  13. AtanticO

    AtanticO Well-Known Member

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    Jun 25, 2013
    exactly. i'd still go for the 'better' lighting. it's so cheap and easy to set up.

    harbor freight has $30 planers. usblanks has the best close tolerance blanks out there.

    use resin research ce with fast hardener to lam. workable for an hour and 3hr till cure. the slow is too slow. 6hrs or something. the foam will suck too much resin. you'll get dry lam.

    take that class LBcrew suggests you'll at least know what your in for.
     
  14. AtanticO

    AtanticO Well-Known Member

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    Jun 25, 2013
    ?? fight with Emass? where do you get that?

    just trying to give dude advice. half my family works in production shops and i take working vacations out
    there all the time. hand shaped somewhere around 500-600 boards and laminated prob more then 2000 in my life. i grew up in surfboard factories. i know what im talking about here a little more then some guy on board #2.
     
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  15. leethestud

    leethestud Well-Known Member

    Aug 12, 2010
    you're right, pro, if you can't do it perfectly on the first try, why even bother....
     
  16. Bill Cosby's nephew

    Bill Cosby's nephew Well-Known Member

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    Jun 21, 2013
    Would you guys seriously advise against designing the board myself? I want to build something for VB waves. I've been sketching something along the lines of a 6'8 swallow tail quad with slight nose rocker and minimal tail rocker, but for my first board it's gonna be difficult to scale my drawings properly to create a successful outline template. All the guides online say to trace a board if it's your first build.
     
  17. AtanticO

    AtanticO Well-Known Member

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    Jun 25, 2013
    yes, if you can't even build proper racks then why bother. setup is the easiest part. if it's to much trouble or too hard to take an hour to build racks then how's he gonna shape a board? come on...really?
     
  18. Bill Cosby's nephew

    Bill Cosby's nephew Well-Known Member

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    Jun 21, 2013
    I'll build racks. Do you have any plans for building quick, garage friendly racks?
     
  19. AtanticO

    AtanticO Well-Known Member

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    Jun 25, 2013

    download the free version of aku shaper. you can design your outline, print it out and transfer it to a template. use thin masonite. this is the easiest thing you'll do. this way is much cleaner and more efficient. besides that... other then LBcrew...don't listen to the donkey's chiming in on here. go ask people on swaylocks if the internet is gonna be your guide. some of the dudes posting on there own glass shops, are legend shapers, etc and know whats up. SI has too many 'just learned to surf' dorks like clemsonSurf (from charlestown, SC?!?) and leethestud(nice name).
     
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  20. AtanticO

    AtanticO Well-Known Member

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    Jun 25, 2013
    don't have clear pics of my old one's. but you can sorta see.... built these in 30min tops when i was waiting for steel bolt in racks. racks have to be connected and heavy as you can get them. build a base on the bottom out of 2x4's and put cinder blocks on it.
     
    Last edited: Jul 22, 2013