why the south will always rule over new jersey

Beg to differ, Wilmington and Wrightsville Beach, NC are being invaded by northerners as we speak. There was even a front page story on it yesterday the other day. If I had a nickel for every time somebody from jerzee asked me where to eat at the beach, I could open my own damn resturant.

By the way, what's yall's favorite response to tourists asking directions? I always send em' all the way to the north end where there aren't in places to grub

 

Nice. You screw people over who are asking for directions? WTF tool. Send your hick arse north, the minute you leave the 'spressway & can't find you a Motel 6, you're cryin' for help. You got some bad karma, sparky.

 

I like shrimp.
Says Bubba Blue from the movie Forrest Gump:
“Shrimp is the fruit of the sea. You can barbecue it, boil it, broil it, bake it, sautee it. There's, um, shrimp kebabs, shrimp creole, shrimp gumbo, pan fried, deep fried, stir fried. There's pineapple shrimp and lemon shrimp, coconut shrimp, pepper shrimp, shrimp soup, shrimp stew, shrimp salad, shrimp and potatoes, shrimp burger, shrimp sandwich... That's, that's about it.”

 

Haha calm down with the name calling man I was just doing a little trolling.

We do fry more things down here, but that's just a stereotype you put on us. Not going to list every type of food out there but come to a town on the coast were some people know how to cook and you'll find some good food that isn't deep-fried, breaded and drowned in grease.

 

interesting thread. First off, I will chime in and say that South Carolina BBQ is probably my favorite, followed by NC and then Texas. All very good, but im on an SC BBQ kick right now.

As far as the North Vs. South Food, I will have to say that is a wash. There are more quality places in the North, but most of them are not even regional food, I.E. New York and NE have a ton of great restaurants that are all run by foreigners and don't really have anything to do with their region. Also with the higher populations in all the Northern cities, the percentages of good restaurants to people is not that much... Anyway, in the dirty south, there are plenty of smaller cities that rival anything up North, even NYC. I.E. Savannah, GA, Charleston, SC and even tiny HHI. They all have world class cuisine with a southern draw. The creole. The low Country Boils. The hoppin Johns. The crawfish. The seafood. We got a lot of good seafood.

But, as a guy who is from the DC/MD area, who lived in Southern CA for 10 years and now lives in SC, I will say this, California, LA/SD/SF hands down beats both the north and south, first off in surf, obviously but in cuisine too. All mexican food aside, all the cities out west are 5 years ahead of the curve as far as trends in the culinary world and how its executed. It is the starting point for what to eat in america, with NYC coming in a close second to SF, but there is nothing outside of NYC in the north that can even compare to LA or SF... So, I would say the NE and the SE is fighting for second place =)

As far as live as a surfer, while MD and Jerz have some better stretches of waves, I would take living down here in SC any day as a surfer. Warm water almost all year. Trunking it for 8 months out of the year. Hell, the water yesterday when I surfed was 87 degrees. I trunked it until Thanksgiving last fall and was out of my wetsuit in late march. Waves arent always great, but the Carolinas have The Outer Banks. South Carolina has dozens of small islands that are graced with good surf when swell is around, and then you got Florida holding it down too. So, surfing life may be a wash, but to be able to really enjoy the ocean all year. Rocking a 2 or 3 mil for a couple months and surf alone all winter with no one else around and having clean offshore conditions to yourself aint bad at all. And our crowds only last about 2 months, but they do give us surf zones all over the island, so I feel like surfers get a lot more to play with than the MD and JER areas that are all whored out every summer to swim zones and touristas....

But yeah, the south does have world class cuisine and the little diners and dives got a lot of character....

 

It's so much better up here in New England

 

Hey it's Zach619 !! I missed you, man. Please don't go away like that again.

Now since you are in the food business, and I'm most certainly not, you sure aboot your west coast claim over New York City? I don't know. Manhattan's the greatest place on earth for a reason.

Dude, no where has more diners or more diners with character than New Jersey.

Alot of y'all, when hyping southern cuisine, talk aboot sh!t no one cares aboot. Crawdads?? That ain't no food. They're like the vermin of the fresh water world. Yeah, youse guys tie a chunk of hotdog to a string and catch 'em and pretend they're lobsters, but good lord. You guys eat squirrell brains for God's sakes.

Ahh man, all of this BBQ talk make me frippin rid. Who cares aboot BBQ. Dudes, it's all aboot pizza and Italian food. "Wake up, white people"(Daniel Carver). I mean lame places, like Kansas City, hyoe their BBQ because they ain't got nothing else to hype.

ZACH !!! Surfing's not aboot water temperatures, man. It's all aboot the bubs, man. Cold bubs are good bubs. And man, October - May is pretty dead in New Jersey, except for a handful of spots where people of the herd mentallity pack together. Yeah, our beaches are policed during the summer - everything is illegal(Beer, guns, dogs, surfing outside designated areas, chicken wings, noise......) but it's only three months out of the year. Most Jersey beach towns are ghost towns in January. You can get jiggy with it in the open.

 

We moved from Ventura, CA, to VA Beach in 97. One of the things we really missed was good Mexican food and tri-tip or Santa Maria BBQ. But I do so love grouper, shrimp & grits, fried okra, and good piece of catfish.

I would also add: redbeans & rice, blackened redfish, seafood gumbo, shrimp & sausage gumbo, jambalaya, Texas style beans, collard greens, black-eye peas, Key lime pie, peach milkshakes, sweet potato pie, Mississippi mud cake, and banana puddin' (Not sure if that's southern, but I had it with my in-laws in east Texas).

I'll add coastal SC to my list of possible retirement locations.

 

Aren't you a vegetarian? Vegetarians are the last people in the world I ask about matters of fine dining. You can't appreciate the simple joys of a brisket that has been smoked over mesquite for 16 hours. You can't enjoy bacon. Bacon!

As for Italian, I can make that at home. I used to work for the Italians and lived in Torino for a short period of time. However, if I am looking for something authentic at a restaurant, I have Bacco and Lucca here in town. Both places are a very accurate representation of authentic Italian cuisine. As for pizza, we have 2 places that specialize in NY style pizza. And having been to NY many times, I can tell you they get it right. We also have a wood fired brick oven pizza place that produces perfect Neapolitan pizza, which also matches what I had while I was in Italy. You should really visit Charleston sometime. As a Chicagoan, I would always fight for the claim that Chi has a better overall food scene than NYC. It was all based on original ideas, styles, and choices. But Charleston has it's own thing going on. It may not be as diverse, but I actually prefer it.

 

Howdy brother. Its good to be back =)

And my SF/LA vs. Manhattan is obviously just my opinion, but I will put it to you like this. A lot of the italians that you speak of from the NYC area have been re-locating to San Francisco for decades. The place has turned into a Mecca. Every city out west from SD to Seattle has real italian food, from families from the motherland. Its like I used to say when I lived in Maryland to all my NY friends, what you think that these italians that moved down to Baltimore didn't bring their recipies with them? There is nothing in the water in NYC that makes their food taste better. These foreigners have taken their recipes and move to Miami, LA, SF, SD... Its the same food.

I totally agree that Manhattan is considered by a lot of people as the Hub of fashion, food and culture. But i just disagree. Manhattan is the "Melting Pot". A place where there is a little of everything, but nothing Manhattan. What is Manhattan famous for, other than some pizza, which are all recipes from Foreigners. Manhattan is a place that has a ton of nice spots, but it is "known" for nothing. What are the good regional cuisines from New York? Fish? Seafood? Everyone on both coasts have that. Maryland has Crabs and Crab Cakes. The South has BBQ and southern cuisine. What is NYC truly known for? I can't name anything off the top of my head.

So, I believe that since the 80s or so, LA and SF are the Hub for food and culture in this country. New York claims fashion and entertainment too, yet every major player in both industry is stationed in LA/Hollywood. San Francisco has TONS of italian influence. LA has EVERYTHING. little of this, little of that.

So, these are all just my opinions. But when I was a kid, NYC was the end-all. it was the place to be. over the decades, and the more and more i spent time there, the less and less I was impressed by quality of life, food and over all swagger. I would not want to live in NYC or SF, but after spending time in both places, SF has wine country right next door. Beautiful seafood, incredible urban landscape and architecture. They have everything NYC has and then some... IMO.

If you want to do a skyline battle, yes NYC will win hands down, but as far as food, culture and entertainment, aside from Broadway, NYC has fallen behind. but sh*(*, who cares really. Im just dropping my 3 cents into the bucket.

 

Naner Pudd'n is only real and Southern if it is baked with egg white meringue on top.

 

First of all, y'all, I'm not being on the "atttack"(with an extra 't') aboot food. But if there's a New York influence in these places...well, what does that say? It's like TuPacks a Day being the west coast posterboy during the east coast vs west coast rap struggles, when Tu Packs was born and raised in New York and Baltimore.

New york isn't known for anything original? But the south is original because they eat seafood and pigs? And the south isn't influenced by any non-natives? Strict bloodlines down there, huh?

Good lord, didn't us carpetbaggers have to build y'all back up and show you how to do things after 1865?

Hey, New Jersey was the home of the film industry back in the day !! But your sunny, Southern Californian weather changed the game. Everything was invented in New Jersey.

And lordy, I know there's good Italian food/pizza everywhere.

Ok, you rapscallions, I know the Northeast is in decline. We were all aboot maufacturing and them days have gone. We still have the purest and cheapest dope, and you can't take that away from us.

Man, this site does crazy things to me. I'm sitting here throwing props to Manhattan which is overpriced, overcrowded, and some BS bigshot/celebrity Candyland.

Chicago !!?? Brewengineer, you Ferris Bueller sum b!tch !! Chicago's most famous son, Al Capone, was from Brooklyn for God's sakes. I've never had this famous Chicago deep dish pizza. I've been wanting to go to Chicago for awhile now, want to surf the Lakes, too. But then again, I also want to go to Detroit.

In case anyone misunderstands, this is all in good fun. No bad vibes here, so relax, y'all.

 

The only influence from NY we have is pizza, and that is because so many of you old northerners come down here for retirement.

 

We have to.......we're targets around here. Those %$#@ and &^%$ are always robbing us.

Calm down people it's just a joke.......God, do I have to end every message with a disclaimer. Jeez, I knew I should have gone to law school.

 

Do you actual think I am angry or something?
Calmer than you are, Dude.

 

No, I didn't think you were angry.

I said, "People,"

Oh yeah, you think you're calmer than me, huh? Oh I guess People from up here can't be as calm as people from the south, huh? I'll show you calm.

 

Come on, man. Have you ever followed an SC driver. Friggin 10mph under the speed limit. So calm, you would think we are in a coma.