WTF Hurricanes

Discussion in 'Northeast' started by surfthewall11, Aug 18, 2013.

  1. surfthewall11

    surfthewall11 Well-Known Member

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    Apr 23, 2012
    This is bunk. No mas hurricanes.
     
  2. beagleagle

    beagleagle Well-Known Member

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    Aug 6, 2008

  3. zach619

    zach619 Well-Known Member

    Jan 21, 2009
    It's my first full fall season back on the east coast. I moved here last year just in time for Sandy, but that was about the only decent swell I got until Winter. You guys can blame me. I think I skunked the whole season for everyone this year. Just my luck.
     
  4. njsurfer42

    njsurfer42 Well-Known Member

    Nov 9, 2009
    it's still early, really. calm yourselves.
     
  5. Yewnorksurfsux

    Yewnorksurfsux Well-Known Member

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    Aug 27, 2009
    shhhh people are still recovering from sandy. keep the cane talk down becareful what you wish for
     
  6. shark-hunter

    shark-hunter Well-Known Member

    Apr 29, 2012
    Oh give me a break. More people die from heat waves than hurricanes. Any loss of life in a hurricane is totally avoidable. It's all loss of property and and 98% of property damage is totally avoidable by not building so close to the ocean. Our coastline should be at least 75% national protected areas anyway. Not homes for millionaires who get subsidies. People build houses on stilts and are at risk of damage in some areas every time a low pressure system goes near, forget a hurricane. That should tell you something. And surfers don't want landfall anyway. They want that sucker spinning out in the Atlantic, which is what the majority do. We want waves, not destruction. Sandy was a FLUKE. Remember hurricane bill? Now that's what I'm talking about. Hurricanes are a natural meteorological phenomenon and is the way the planet distributes moisture.
     
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  7. EmassSpicoli

    EmassSpicoli Well-Known Member

    Apr 16, 2013
    This is a very good public statement and I need something similar for a response to when my friends and acquaintances tell me on weekend nights "you don't know your own strength."
     
  8. shark-hunter

    shark-hunter Well-Known Member

    Apr 29, 2012
    Oh and I should add they've done numerous studies showing how overdeveloping a coastline like jersey has robs the area of sand. Marshes trap sand and help replenish it naturally. We are destroying our coastline with over development. I'm not trying to be insenstive to people had destruction during sandy and no one wants to see destruction. I'm Just telling it like it is. Would have said the same thing before sandy and now after sandy.
     
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  9. bubs

    bubs Well-Known Member

    Sep 12, 2010
    I will not give you a break. I live in NJ and we DO NOT want a hurricane that will damage our coast any more, of course we want waves. We have come a long way since the storm hit, but there is still a long way to go. There are still some areas that are weakly protected and susceptible to damage with a dangerous storm. I don't care that you don't care. What is a day of surfing compared to someone else's entire life of material things and their home destroyed? Nothing. Go think.
     
  10. OceanO

    OceanO Well-Known Member

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    Jul 23, 2013
    did you even read what shark-hunter wrote?
     
  11. bubs

    bubs Well-Known Member

    Sep 12, 2010
    It is what it is. The coastline is over developed. We can't go back in time and change things. We work with what we have. Fall in line with the coastal communities as a surfer who loves the beach or whine about what you read in books and on line. No matter what you feel, it's just bad on you for taking the stance of "I don't care". Give respect get respect. Peace.
     
  12. bubs

    bubs Well-Known Member

    Sep 12, 2010
    Yes. I am sensitive about the issue of hurricanes. I am biased. If you dislike what I wrote just attribute it to that.
     
  13. njsurfer42

    njsurfer42 Well-Known Member

    Nov 9, 2009
    this sentence illustrates just how clueless you really are.
     
  14. shark-hunter

    shark-hunter Well-Known Member

    Apr 29, 2012
    Actually you're totally clueless and clearly biased. I'm generally liberal, but I'm guessing you're a right winger? Subsides are fine for oil companies and millionaires, but no "entitlements" for the underpaid poor right? That's usually the right wing mantra
    http://reason.com/archives/2012/10/29/fear-no-hurricane-obama-quietly-approved
    Reminds me of people who build near a river that floods every 15 years and are shocked when the river floods their home and expect the government to reroute the river and spend millions protecting their house. Don't build by the river if you can't take the risk

    Yeah you know what...Material possessions are just that....Material! Thunderstorms damage homes all the time, yet I still enjoy watching them even though a branch might fall on my car/home. I enjoy meteorological phenomenon and I don't need to apologize to anyone for that. I certainly don't hope for a landfall of a hurricane or for a wind gust from a thunderstorm to topple a tree onto someone's house though.</b> I like hurricanes to spin out in the Atlantic and send ground swell. Some of you guys are being ridiculous. It's life. It's nature. Maybe people who like hot weather shouldn't hope for hot weather because it kills more people than hurricanes. What about people who enjoy snow in the mountains. Should skiers in the rockies not hope for snow. There's avalanches. People slip and fall. It's called nature and it's life.

    Actually there is something you can do about over development in coastal area's. Buy people's home's when they get destroyed and don't let them rebuild rather than the current agenda of spending millions of dollars in insurance subsidies and sand replenishment. Reclassify coastal area's to be protected from future development as well.

    Hey buebonice
    If you don't enjoy hurricanes coming off the cape verde then I'm guessing you don't go out surfing anytime there's a hurricane swell right? What about a low pressure system swell? That also causes coastal property damage. So I expect to NOT see you out in the lineup right? So basically sw local wind swells only for you right?
     
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  15. njsurfer42

    njsurfer42 Well-Known Member

    Nov 9, 2009
    lmfao but you're clueless! my point is that you're so myopic that you think the "shore" is populated only by the rich; that average folks don't build lives along the edge of the sea. it had nothing to do w/ politics.

    my personal politics, btw, are irrielevant. but no, i'm not a "right winger".
     
  16. shark-hunter

    shark-hunter Well-Known Member

    Apr 29, 2012
    I'm sure there are some rare exceptions(inherited wealth is still wealth of course!), but the majority of beachfront home owners are rich in nj.
    Oceanfront homes in NJ are generally worth over 1 million dollars.
    http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2013-01-31/storm-risk-fails-to-deter-buyers-of-oceanfront-homes
    Average price is 1.1 million.

    Some WAY more than that. A nurse or a teacher working full time couldn't dream of buying a home like that. Many people just own these as summer homes. There not even full time residences. Long island is even worse. Some of the homes in the hampton that are oceanfront go for like 30-50 millions. It's really kind of absurd and show the huge income inequality that exists.

    Irregardless of being rich or not, we are overdeveloping our shoreline.
     
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  17. sisurfdogg

    sisurfdogg Well-Known Member

    Jun 17, 2013
    When I was a kid, my dad bought a house three houses from the water, and said "One of these days this will be waterfront property". He is long gone. I thought he was joking. He looks pretty prescient right now, although the house is still three houses from the water ( but for how much longer? ). Bottom line, don't live by the water if you don't like getting wet. All these rich landowners on the ocean want everyone to bail them out, but for Joe and Jane Surfer: no parking, no bathroom/showers, no beach access, no surf for YOU! Mother nature bats last. In the meantime, even though I have lost lots during several hurricanes, both personally, financially, and business wise, I would love nothing more than to see a big ole Cat 2 hang out south of Bermuda for about a week, then go off to the deep blue, maybe give our Irish brethren a few chunks.
     
  18. njsurfer42

    njsurfer42 Well-Known Member

    Nov 9, 2009
    i'm sure you're very smug, & that your belief that it's just "inhereted wealth" being destroyed makes you feel better about it, butnot everyone who owns a home along the shore comes from money. my family is descended from coal miners & sailors, yet we've lived & owned homes on barrier islands for more than 3 generations. my sister & her husband (both teachers) bought their home w/out a single penny of inherited money. my wife & i are in the process of doing the same. oceanfront? no, of course not. but as anyone who grew up along the coast knows, building & living directly on the beach is stupid.

    the coastline may be overdeveloped, but your constant harping about reclaiming the land for nature preserves & screwing the people who've lived in these places for generations is, frankly, insulting.
     
  19. bubs

    bubs Well-Known Member

    Sep 12, 2010
    No, not right.
     
  20. Sniffer

    Sniffer Well-Known Member

    Sep 20, 2010
    Somebody sounds bitter that they chose to be a teacher.