Presumably you are referring to surfing magazines since there are many other magazines which do not find it outrageous at all and have proven this by publishing features which enthuse about the boards and their price. Regarding surf mags, you can't be serious... it's hardly news to Charles or myself that surf mags and many surfers find the prices to be 'outrageous'. I don't buy into the 'Hippy' stereotype and fail to see what my appearance has to do with surfboard pricing. I have never espoused communism or suggested that high levels of wealth are bad so you suggestion that I 'sound like a hippy' is completely spurious as a basis for your accusation of hypocrisy It referred to it in a most inaccurate and disparaging way, but I have not complained about that as it is their business to express their opinions... they should do so however without telling blatant lies. Again I have no problem with that and am sufficiently astute that I expected it, but they should not stoop to telling lies and high handedly reducing the price on my behalf. 'Most all' wtf does that mean? In any case I get a tremendous amount of positive feedback from surfers all over the globe, including many who have ridden one of my boards. The haters will always hate and did so prior to the advent of the stupendous prices. Bottom line is that I get a lot of information which you don't ever see. No anger here boy, and certainly no 'act'...I just correct you where you go wrong, and post my opinion. You got that one back to front. The reason why I was banned was because so many members were 'losing their rag' and showing signs of serious anger problems Mike Paler said as much and he also said that I had broken no forum rules but was causing others to get so angry that they were breaking the rules. The level of abuse being posted by some of them was way over the top... and was highly illegal. Mike Paler had to stop it and took the easy route. I do, and have been doing so for the past 17 years, I reserve the right to have my say though, and doing so in response to people like you is something I've done so many times it's routine and requires no significant emotion. In other words it 'aint hot You expect me to stalk him? Honestly I have no idea what Spielberg does or feels in response to criticism and don't care. Valid criticism? Like what? All I see is illogical dribble and irrelevant bumf. Thanks for the compliment regarding my 'cryptic' responses... lack of understanding from people like you is a very good sign, we sometimes call it a litmus test' which shows that we are making sense. Pure fiction from you, there's no such act and I have no such opinion. .
In any case in the long run huge prices for some surfboards is good for the surfing world, and is surfing so unimportant and boring that we allow the existence of million dollar ladies handbags and million dollar pieces of painted plywood to hang on the wall but balk at surfboards having a high top end? It sounds to me that rcater and a few others don't really love surfing at all, they are just communist tall poppy lopping types, full of hot air, and of no real consequence.
atlantico-no-go, why do you try to start forum brawls with your instigating & your insulting of other people here? What is your purpose aside from bourbon-infused scrabbling on your keyboard? Is that even a purpose? You hijack threads, you instigate off-topic drivel & you launch your Defcon22 AngryBuoy at anyone & everyone. Plus, you're just plain boring. That last item may be your biggest offense, actually. Admin, isn't the banned oceano-go-no the same act as atlantico-no-go? If the one is banned for the usual infarctions of dropping verbal turds on the human race as well as other, less-insane (but still-insane!) aspects, shouldn't atlantico-no-go be banished to the land of bread & water?
you used the wrong form of (you're/your) in YOUR attempt to call someone stupid. Irony is a b*tch, isn't she? How does it go? The pot calls the kettle black and a forum war ensues? Go away. Also, nobody is going to convince the gnome to lower the price of his micro yachts so we might as well just continue to not buy them and move on. Prost!
I'm convinced that atlantico-no-go, ocean-no-go, nj playuh, njshredmachine......are actually the shredmachine. All have the same 12 year old child's vocab & syntax, the same schoolyard taunts, the same talkin'-above-his-pay- grade style of strange, off-key insults.
Roy in an effort to not waste space I will not quote your long post from above but suffice to say you are sliding into the anger posts that has seen you banned from other sites. You seem to do this once posters start using real arguments against you instead of just bashing you as you do not have any way to refute an opinion since it is as stated an opinion and not a fact. Why can you not understand that you have your opinion and we have ours and the proof shows it's you and a small few against the rest of the surf world. You mocking my comment of valid criticism shows that you feel no criticism of your work is valid. You call me and others communist when I have stated YOU CAN CAHRGE WHAT EVER THE HELL YOU WANT EVEN IF WE DISAGREE WITH YOU how is that communist and not capatilist? I never said wealth was bad and have said over and over and over again that you are free to charge what you want. I also said you look like a hippy not that you are one as evidenced by your greed. You say you do not act like the surf world is against you but then say everyone is lying about you and your boards, how do you reconclie that statement? As for the articles neagtivley depicting your boards, all I have ever read is them putting down your prices not construction. If you really want to prove your point then as I have said you or Charles please tell us the real costs of materials only used in this board then we can extrapalate the the difference and we will see what price you feel your work is worth. Again just to be 100% CRYSTAL CLEAR YOU CAN CHARGE WHATEVER THE HELL YOU WANT FOR YOUR TIME, but it seems that your hourly rate is higher than a surgeon who saves lives. Do you really feel you are worth that much? If so great but I myself and others here do not and that is our point. And finally to this comment: Regarding surf mags, you can't be serious... it's hardly news to Charles or myself that surf mags and many surfers find the prices to be 'outrageous'. If that was the case then why are you so shocked SI, Swaylocks and many other forums disagree with you?
Rcarter your the fool starting to sound like a communist. You continue to state that Roy has the right, because of free market capitalism, to charge whatever he wants. Your issue is clearly price based and not involved with surfboard design which is another issue in itself. You think surfing is this thing that can't accept a luxury item because its just not right in your mind. If one looks back on the history of surfing it was at its conception in the western world ofcource a hobby for homeless and grungy dudes .. Not true for ancient Polynesia however. Any way my point being is that like all things culture changes and surfboards are no longer the interests of slum life only. Lobster in Maine used to be collected on the beach when dead ones would wash up from storms and fed to jail inmates .. Not the case for lobster anymore , it yields top dollar in many markets foreign and abroad. Surfboards like lobster are things of value so lets enjoy it all.
I don't think you understand the definition of communism. As for the price argument, there is no reason to expect Roy to explain himself. He has a delusional view of his own work and its value. Actually, I think it is all part of his plan. I am guessing he makes his money off of plans and other such things, and the price point of his boards is really just a way to get some publicity.
I'm really only on this forum to check the surf report but I do enjoy the forum discussions. My grammar shouldn't be an issue to anyone it's the point of my statements which matter. And yes a communist is someone who votes for big govenment and consequently big business. R carter has demonstrated his interest in big business namely the surf industry and following the standard set forth by it. He has shown little room in his skull for free thought and the acceptance of luxury goods within the surf industry is un acceptable to him , he's more concerned with the monopoly surf industry thus demonstrating communist / Marxist thought. The greatest good for the greatest Amount of surfers is the r carter battle.
atlantico's mother just infomed me that tampons are on sale this week. better go stock up before this thread reaches 100 pages i hope all of you return from battle safely.
Incorrect I'm mildly amused by your rants, there's no anger... and it's only one site. I didn't say that, you invented the statement on my behalf. I already know that. Firstly a forum cannot agree or disagree with anything, since a forum is not a sentient being. Secondly I am not at all shocked when some individuals disagree with me, I expect it and am quite used to it. .