Discussing Roy's surfboard designs.

Discussion in 'Global Surf Talk' started by Roy Stuart, Jan 28, 2013.

  1. Roy Stuart

    Roy Stuart Well-Known Member

    Jan 27, 2013
    Cry baby!

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  2. yankee

    yankee Well-Known Member

    Sep 26, 2008
    Jeez, I don't know if I can handle that one, gnome.
     

  3. brewengineer

    brewengineer Well-Known Member

    Jun 22, 2011
    Well, we all know you aren't rolling in cash from board sales. I am sure a successful business owner would have better things to do than argue over opinions on SI.
     
  4. Roy Stuart

    Roy Stuart Well-Known Member

    Jan 27, 2013
    Check this out, page 42:

    http://edition.pagesuite-professional.co.uk/launch.aspx?eid=c86ae8de-ced3-45b3-9850-fd8d61ff74b4

    "Designing surfboards is an art for Roy Stuart, who is perhaps the world’s most venerated surfboard sculptor, crafting all his rides by hand. Although he builds only two boards a year, his logoand signature-less rides are instantly recognizable. Stuart’s latest creation is theHotkurl 2013, a
    compact 10-foot, five-inch board that is the result of a 16-year development program that utilizes
    synergized hydrodynamic innovations. Fashioned in empress wood—Stuart specializes in wooden
    boards—and covered in stainless steel and 23K gold gilding, the technologically advanced board
    is the designer’s fastest and smoothest ride yet. It is also the world’s most expensive surfboard,
    which at $1.47 million, is an almost priceless expression by the “Stradivari of surfboard shapers.”
    Contact: Owner Roy Stuart, (647) 882-1560; admin@roystuart.biz; www.roystuart.biz "

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  5. rcarter

    rcarter Well-Known Member

    Jul 26, 2009
    I have always said my issue is with Roy's prices, never tried to hide it. Just because surfing is not for the slum life it is by no means the hobby of the ultra rich except maybe for you if your surfing Marthas Vineyard, maybe take a ride down to NJ or MD or NC beaches and tell me what you see. Kids getting by on any old board they can ride to stay stoked, not selling their parents houses, cars and cashing in 401k's to buy Roy's boards. You keep eating your lobster and buying your yachts.

    I love big business, I work for the 6th largest insurance broker in the country 7th largest in the world and am insuring a 92 million dollar high rise right now. I love money. Yes the surf industry like all industries promotes big spending, doesn't mean people can't disagree with the trend. My boards are shaped by a local guy in Wrightsville Beach who tells me the cost of materials and then adds $100-$150 for his time.

    You just agreed with Brew that you sell your plans at a normal cost to make your living and use your high priced boards as the hook to get folks interested, same thing I said 3 pages ago. Thank you for proving my point.

    Charles you say you mostly come to check the forecast but have 173 posts in less than 2 months. Seems you doing a lot of posting.

    Again neither one of you two will come clean with the actual cost of materials to make these boards. Here is the cost sheet from my shaper for my last board:

    Blank: $90
    Glassing and color: $200
    Cost for him shaping it: $125

    Total: $415 we have been friends since 1990 so he cuts me a break but you get the picture. Oh and just so you do get the picture I have included it below.
    Yellow Single fin.jpg

    Let's see you guys' cost?
     
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  6. rcarter

    rcarter Well-Known Member

    Jul 26, 2009
    Sorry but a review from a Yacht mag is not a valid opinion of the surfing community! That is like Better Homes & Gardens reviewing a Fender Guitar.
     
  7. Roy Stuart

    Roy Stuart Well-Known Member

    Jan 27, 2013
    It's not a review it is a product feature... advertising... it's out there, hard copy in private jets and super yachts, sorry but I doubt if the readers have heard of you or your bottom feeding opinion of what the herd supposedly group thinks.

    If you were to be sentenced to hang if and when a board sells for over a million, would you feel safe or would you have a nagging thought that someone might be 'crazy' enough to do it?

    ... and speaking of home and garden the 'Hotkurl' also features in the latest 'Robb Report: Home and Style' magazine. The luxury goods mags can't get enough of it.
     
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  8. Roy Stuart

    Roy Stuart Well-Known Member

    Jan 27, 2013
    No I didn't, and FYI my plans are on the expensive side.


    The materials cost is irrelevant to the finished price, that's why.

    I don't have to buy into your materials plus average hourly rate paradigm, and I don't.

    Thanks for the picture of your latest board. I rode foam shortboard singles for 20 years and although I liked them at the time I have moved light years ahead of them, in my opinion. They are outdated.

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  9. Roy Stuart

    Roy Stuart Well-Known Member

    Jan 27, 2013
    Those members who have shown an avid interest in what I sell, when I sell it and how much I sell it for will no doubt be pleased to receive the following live update: A custom hand drawn set of plans for the 'Earl' 10-6 sold 30 minutes ago for US$200.

    Paper cost $2, ink 40c, time spent drawing to be advised, postage and packaging to be advised.
     
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  10. Roy Stuart

    Roy Stuart Well-Known Member

    Jan 27, 2013
    Three cheers for MR :)

    In terms of sound however hollow wooden boards have a resonance which amplifies the sounds made by the hull moving through and over the water, foam does not do so noticeably.

    This resonance enhances the ride. Recently I was riding the 'Makaha' 12-9 in some perfect point break waves, as the board wound up to full speed the 'chuckling' sound made by the hull gliding over the micro chop made by the light offshore increased in frequency, it was one of the delights of riding the wave..

    :)
     
  11. rcarter

    rcarter Well-Known Member

    Jul 26, 2009
    Damn man I didn't know your boards were in Sky Mall

    If SI members opinions of your boards would sentence you to hang would you still advertise them on SI, would you feel safe. Care to take a vote?

    Nice article in Home & Style, I bet every surfer subscribes to that. Based on the 800 hours of labor over an average 40 hour week that is an annual salary of a little over $3.6 million a year. I know some of that is materials but compared to a Cardiothoracic Surgeon who save lives daily and makes an average salary in the US of $423,000 seems you think you are worth a lot for making high priced toys.
     
  12. nynj

    nynj Well-Known Member

    Jul 27, 2012
    I just pooped... I'll sell it for $1,379,999.00.
     
  13. rcarter

    rcarter Well-Known Member

    Jul 26, 2009
    Holy Poop that was funny!
    big mouth.jpg
     
  14. Cuck Taylor

    Cuck Taylor Well-Known Member

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    Jul 6, 2013
    R carter you still seem so troubled about Roy's board pricing.. "Oh he makes more money than a surgeon who saves lives".. boo hoo, take your philanthropy self riceous concerns else where you big wig insurance salesmen. Hey if anything your clients are the types who buy luxury items in their hard cover catalogues who feature Roy's stuff. Double standard ..? I think so. You feed off the untra rich and so does Roy. God bless him.
    Carter you love money !!? Save up and buy a Roy board dude ! Or sack up and build one yourself that's if your high rise executive life can allow you the lifestyle to do such things.
     
  15. brewengineer

    brewengineer Well-Known Member

    Jun 22, 2011
    Self riceous? Is that an Asian thing?
     
  16. rcarter

    rcarter Well-Known Member

    Jul 26, 2009
    You seem to want to single me out when I post coherent arguments and other bash Roy's boards directly. I have stayed civil long enough in this thread so here goes.

    Charles you can go back to building doors for the ultra rich, banging the horse in your avatar and being Roy's lap dog and whatever other pathetic crap you do that you call a life. I will continue to enjoy making $125,000+ my wifes $97,000 a year and we will spend our money on luxury items we want just as others may choose to spend theirs on Roy's creation. You obviously can not afford Roy's boards or you would have bought one rather than the plans. None of my clients nor the ultra richies on the private jets or yachts reading about Roy's boards in the "Home & Garden" section are buying them either. Those articles are a way for them to pass the time on flights. I provide my clients service and financial security while Roy makes surf craft for hobbiest. If people want to pay for that more power to them.

    Charlie Brown you are a class A douche bag and I hope when you have a heart attack Roy comes to operate on you and the heart surgeon laughs as you lay there dying. Enjoy riding your giant wooden toothpick going straight like surfers did 200 years ago. You talk about the ancient Hawaiians only allowing royalty or in your estimation the equivalent of today's rich to surf. Well lets go back to that then uneducated morons like yourself would not be in the water and instead would be resigned to acting as servants to the royalty. You are so far up Roy's @ss you you can't bare to hear any criticism of him. Why don't you move to NZ and bang the gnome and get it over with since you already have your nose so far up his @ss his balls are resting on your chin! Other wise shut up and go back to playing with your wood.
     
  17. Roy Stuart

    Roy Stuart Well-Known Member

    Jan 27, 2013
    Be a good chap Carter and refrain from making lewd gutter insults on my thread.

    All insults should be above the belt, thanks very much in advance.

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  18. Roy Stuart

    Roy Stuart Well-Known Member

    Jan 27, 2013
    Cheers Gaffer, we are planning to send another, just working out the details, it will be better funded this time.
     
  19. rcarter

    rcarter Well-Known Member

    Jul 26, 2009
    If you get Charles to move his mouth off your stick and above your belt I will oblige.
     
  20. ClemsonSurf

    ClemsonSurf Well-Known Member

    Dec 10, 2007
    Hey, let's leave the wood out of this. There are regular wood boards out there too.