Gmo petition

Pump, Im not a "crusader" and I didn't start this thread Im just chiming in. Maybe it does belong on a surf forum because most surfers have an appreciation for nature and being in touch with it.

Who ever had the burrito smothered in gmo sauce...that comment made me laugh haha

As far as avoiding pesticides.. even organic produce uses some pesticides...but they are supposed to be "natural".

I cant even comprehend how you guys think this is some conspiracy crap; its real and it has been happening. No, not since the neanderthals era hahaha... don't confuse hybridization with GMO's.. because in nature two apple tress can cross pollinate...but a fish and a strawberry cant... and thats a crude way of putting it but thats what GMOs are...


I was pissed when I found out too.. all the food I used to eat was crap with all nasty- hard to pronounce ingredients that just shouldn't be consumed.. If you want to turn a blind eye and pretend like everything is fine and dandy...well, do so..this is America... and that is what the majority of our population seems to do anyway..

 

Not really. Also, GMO covers a lot of different industries, many of which have nothing to do with crops or food. Take for example the biofuel industry, which will rely heavily upon GM algae to increase production.

 

BE:, the genes that code for the protein antifreeze in a fish's blood have no place in a strawberry (IMHO) however, if YOU want them there, that is fine, its just that I want to know about it and avoid it.
Meanwhile you can eat the fish/strawberry lovechild..salty fruit.....mmmm.....insert tasteless joke here

GM algae to make oil is a pipe dream (for now), the filters needed to do it on a reasonable scale are unavailable or clog too easily and wreck anything resembling a reasonable cost:benefit ratio. If Oil goes to 300-400$ a barrel, then this becomes reasonable, but with oil at that price food prices will skyrocket and there will be riots in the street

Larger particles (GM duckweed) are the likely future of this endeavor, duckweed already has high protein content and engineering it to produce lipids as opposed to proteins seems feasible, and the harvesting is much more cost effective. After the oil is harvested from the particles, the remaining biomass can be compressed into bricks and burned as well.
Engineering soy to make plastic on the other hand seems right on

I am not against GE, I think it is important, however safety should trump profits and I think due diligence is needed for 2 reasons
1) human health
2) Genes jumping from one plant (or animal or fungus or bacteria, etc) to another creating a biological hazard we cant fathom yet (see pilus, plasmid)

I am all ears to hear why precautions and labeling sounds unreasonable

One more thing: food security. with a variety of plant genotypes a virus can wipe one or two out and then there are still dozens more to grow and give us food. With a large monoculture of one genotype, a virus would kill them (all plants with that genotype) all and leave us holding the bag.

 

aren't they already on here?

 

Personally, I like hearing about these topics on here. It's good to hear what people have to say outside of my social circle, especially since most of yous guys are pretty intelligent. I can see how people get annoyed about it because they don't want to hear it, but f*ck that. Complacency is what has got us to this point (wonder if all those pharmaceuticals in our water supply have anything to do with it).

And oh ya, f*ck GMO's!

 

I ate the burrito in GMO sauce. I'm 50 years old. They been talking about chemicals in our food since before I was born. We all gotta eat somethin. Even the dudes on the show Mountain men have to go the grocery store. You should see the chemical crap the Amish put in their crops. Don't even get me started about the Amish. (Friggin meth-dealing low-balling crooks that they are) They put warnings on cigarettes and people still smoke. There's a warning on my can o dip but I still be chewin. There's a warning on me that says mess with Chavez and your chances of death increase threefold. BWA HA HA HA HA HA. We all gotta die from something. Might as well be from great tasting GMO.
Get busy living or get busy dying.

 

Exactly, you can't live your life worrying about every little thing. My brother texted me yesterday telling me to be careful with the "deadly bacteria outbreak" in FL waters. I had just gotten back from surfing and told him that if I grow a 2nd head he'll know it got me. He thinks i'm crazy but I really don't care. The media always has a story to keep you tuned in.

 

I dont ignore the labels on dip I dont partake
I dont ignore the labels on my food: I almost bought blueberry cake and it had aluminum in it. No joke. I can post a pic of the ingredients

I have ignored the D.A.R.E. training I got in grade school
I often ignore the warnings on my rum bottles as I operate heavy machinery on my property while drunk
I shant be ignoring the dont mess with Chavez warning

Not gonna lie: MSG in take out food is unbelievably tasty, but I try and maintain self control and not eat that food, but I will eat other food (growing your own and gardening helps)

Get busy living or get busy dying for sure, but give me the choice of what to put in my body by allowing me to make an informed choice

Honestly the last two posters make me scratch my head. why are you against people knowing whats in your food and the possible dangers?.

Its like this: we should have all the facts then we can make choices, I dont care what your choices are:
Maybe you want to live with a sheep and marry a rabbit while jerking off to midget tranny porn with GMO lubricants as you drink soda and smoke rocks. Thats your choice. However you might want to know about the dangers of lying with farm animals, the addictive qualities of crack and the possibility of going blind and the corrosive nature of coca cola on car paint

 

They genetically modify the seeds so they can live through the pestecide. These are called round up resistant seeds. Monsanto makes the round up, and the seeds. So tell me again why they need to be seperated.

 

Because they are not the same issue. As I said, you can buy organic and avoid chemical pesticides. You can't buy organic and avoid all GMO. Lumping everything together shows how little most of the GMO critics actually know. All people really should be worried about is GM food crops. These are the most prevalent and most likely to cause any human harm (if they were ever proven to be harmful).

Btw, roundup is weed killer. The GM plants are modified to survive weed killer. That way, when planting a crop for the new season, only the crops grow. That eliminates much of the work involved with the growing process. Know your chemicals, if you are going to hate on them.

 

a side effect of making seeds resistant (and the plants therefore) to a toxic chemical like roundup is that this gene for resistance to roundup can cross species barriers and make 'superweeds'

also, you can buy organic airloom seeds that have no GMO's....hard to find though

large quantities of pesticides bioamplify up the food chain
eg: DDT killing bugs, DDT collects in environment and is found in a variety of insects and small animals and then when another intermediate predator eat the bugs/animals there is more poison at that feeding level in those animals, then the eagles eat those animals and the result is eagles then have thin egg shells, also see mercury in tuna (I still eat tuna)

while the pesticides and GMO's are separate issues in a manner of speaking, they are tangled together at a few points, specifically when resistance to a poison is inserted into the genome of that organism

 

Round up is very similar to agent orange. Only a few molecules off. So I would say you need to know what's in your weed killer. Monsanto made both. Round up resistant seeds blow into others fields and then Monsanto sues them. And they win. So everybody has to use them. I think two subjects might be linked.

 

But don't believe me. Look into it. Or not. Its all good.

 

yes you can buy organic and avoid GMO. most organic farmers grow from heritage seeds. seeds from plants they grew from the last season or traded with a farmer for. The land and crops are tested. If you are growing organic non GMO you are proud to label it as such. its the growers that produce GMO foods that don't want to label it.

for the record I own certified organic farmland. It has 200 cows feeding on it that produce, you guessed it, certified organic non GMO milk. I'm not the farmer i just lease the land but i do have to get the land tested regularly otherwise the milk company won't buy the milk.

 

PJ you are the man. is that your primary job? either way it sounds like a lot of HARD WORK. seriously awesome

 

noooo. Its a few friends who bought some property to hunt on. it was already a working farm. the guy we lease it to does all the work. we just collect rent to pay off the property.

 

Brew you are right. I should have said herbicides, not pesticides.

 

I ain't scared of no GMO's, HMO's or HOMO's. I is gonna live forever! And Dawn Patrol SUP the aids comment was funny as hell!

 

Naw, man. Archy Rules.

With the Gnome as Recording Secretary (so he can conveniently alter the facts).

And Wayne as The Minister of Discipline (piloting that white van, ostensibly cruising for ... contrails....yikes)

With Clemmy as The Ghostly Spirit (see the final verse of 'American Pie' the song not the flick, doh)

And Chuck-A-Boo-Boo bringing up the rear.....ahem....literally.

Sorry DPSUP...not your kinda club, bruddah.

 

can they gmo this: