Midlength Epiphany

Discussion in 'Surfboards and Surfboard Design' started by patgeds22, Sep 25, 2013.

  1. patgeds22

    patgeds22 Well-Known Member

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    May 29, 2012
    After riding a few different midlength boards in the past year I've decided to trade in for one. Not too sure which designs have which capabilities. Some knowledge would be appreciated. Thanks
     
  2. beachbreak

    beachbreak Well-Known Member

    Apr 7, 2008
    i too am a mid-length guy when it comes to the weak,small swell. the expert is Eric at Beach House in Bay Head.He will get you the right board.

    a lot of experts on swellinfo are ignorant and say mid-lengths are crap. then we get the weak,small swell and we are stoked just as much or more than them.

    i refuse to grovel on a groveler,fish are awesome but they aren't always the answer,and i only longboard ripples.that leaves my mid-lengths, a la 1967 Wayne Lynch, 7'6" single fin.
     

  3. patgeds22

    patgeds22 Well-Known Member

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    May 29, 2012
    Yea man I'm looking to explore these shapes, but i hear all the old good boards are gone and were smashed by old pros. thanks
     
  4. patgeds22

    patgeds22 Well-Known Member

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    May 29, 2012
    those "experts" aren't about having fun, imo
     
  5. patgeds22

    patgeds22 Well-Known Member

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    May 29, 2012
    any other midlength info is greatly appreciated duders
     
  6. sisurfdogg

    sisurfdogg Well-Known Member

    Jun 17, 2013
    My buddy left me a Herbie Fletcher 8' single fin step deck to store while he went traveling in the desert for a few months. I almost wish he never made it back! The board had lots of rocker and was really thick (over 3") and could ride anything from thigh high to way overhead. It was not a light board, so once it got going it had lots of momentum. It had a round thick nose, and a foiled thin tail with a concave to v bottom contour. Damn I wish he got lost in the desert. It was magic.
     
  7. El Stupido

    El Stupido Well-Known Member

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    Nov 17, 2011
    One of my favorite boards is a 7'10" hull. If I had to go to a 1 board quiver, it would be my choice. I have owned about 50 boards and have found that now as I am older and currently on the East coast, it is a very versatile shape. Not a " funboard" but more like the Bing Raven, or something along those lines.
     
  8. garbanzobean

    garbanzobean Well-Known Member

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    Sep 15, 2010
    What is your idea of mid length? I guess mine would be any length you pop up or set the rail back foot ahead of the fin or fin cluster on soft sections, maybe 6'4" to 8'? Or any shape not meant to stand back foot over the fins using hips and knees to drive the board top to bottom all the time. Trim, carve and barrel ride w/ minimal flapping of any body parts. But that could even be a shorty like a 5'8" single fin pintail from 1974.
     
  9. leethestud

    leethestud Well-Known Member

    Aug 12, 2010
    there's nothing wrong with NEEDING a little extra foam in the small stuff, just don't try to spin it off as anything else. It's all about having fun and getting as many waves as possible. I ride anything from a 5'8 quad to log that I can barely fit under my arm...
     
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  10. McLovin

    McLovin Well-Known Member

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    Jun 27, 2010
    Most of my boards have been mid-lengths. I have been using a 7 x 22 x 2-3/4. Round nose and rounded pin tail, very little rocker. 2+1 setup. And it's been perfect for spring and summer in east coast beach break. A little too much float when theres texture and chop but not too bad. Surfs more like a fish than a mini-longboard, and can really glide through flat and mushy sections. Also it's light enough that it's relatively easy to bring it up the lip.

    If I were to change some features, it would be to make the rails a little thinner and knifey. Also to pull in the tail a little more.

    Look up the "Mctavish Sumo". Looks exactly like it.
     
  11. beachbreak

    beachbreak Well-Known Member

    Apr 7, 2008
    i repeat dude,go to beach house in bay head and talk to Eric.
     
  12. JTS

    JTS Well-Known Member

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    Feb 21, 2010
    I have had some great mid lengths, a couple of the best ones have come from Wayne Okamoto. His Dyna-Glyde is a great design, looks kinda like it wouldn't work too good but it is an exceptional performer. Wayne is a great guy to deal with,knowledgable , articulate, returns calls and emails promptly. He makes true customs .Check out some of his stuff on his blog http://oakfoils.blogspot.com/ DSC03246.jpg
     
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  13. BSnyder

    BSnyder Well-Known Member

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    Oct 20, 2013
    Mid length or just more volume?

    Sometimes, to get the stoke back, just some extra volume is all that is necessary.
    The current trend is shorter and wider. For some a Mini-Simmons does the trick. For me, they just go fast but do not turn well. Here is an example of a new model I have been building a lot of lately.
    Hitchcock Model.
    5'4"-6'4" HitchcockYellow_1024x1024.jpg
    http://barrysnyderdesigns.com
     
  14. CBSCREWBY

    CBSCREWBY Well-Known Member

    Feb 21, 2012
    I love my 7' 6" McTavish Carver. It's an older model, been repaired a lot, but it works in most East Coast conditions.
     
  15. HARDCORESHARTHUFFER-RI

    HARDCORESHARTHUFFER-RI Well-Known Member

    Sep 17, 2013
    mid length boards are like training wheels
     
  16. rcarter

    rcarter Well-Known Member

    Jul 26, 2009
    I would say I agree with this comment. As others said more foam is they key to more fun on small/weak days. Mid length will help you get into a wave and pop up like a long board but does not ride the same a a log and lacks the response of a shortboard. Mid length boards are harder to turn in the critical section of bigger waves and don't trim like a true longbaord so to me they are kind of a "step down" board for guys who learned on a log but can't bond with a shortboard. Mid size boards were a big rage in the early 2000's it seemed but you now see most shapers making short thick baords. Also most of these 70's mid size boards guys are talking about are not liek a modern "fun" board like I think you are talking about. Those 70's modles were shortboards for their time and as such ride a lot different than a fun board. I would go short, wide and thick like a mini sim or fish type board because to me "fun boards" are not fun!
     
  17. aka pumpmaster

    aka pumpmaster Well-Known Member

    Apr 30, 2008
    those same 'experts' know how to generate speed on small days.
     
  18. Alvin

    Alvin Well-Known Member

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    Dec 29, 2009
    My 7'7 hybrid fish is my do all board. catches any size. Its 12 yrs old
     
  19. dlrouen

    dlrouen Well-Known Member

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    Jun 6, 2012
    That's certainly one way to look at midlengths. All in all, I think it really comes down to how the board is being used in order to label it a certain way. In other words, Laird Hamilton rides his SUP differently than most of our usual SUP specimens.

    My best advice for choosing a midlength would be to call up a shaper - or the above mentioned expert. There are so many options to choose from, so you really need to know what to look for based on what your looking for. So if you want training wheels, you'll get training wheels and so on. I know all of this may seem obvious, but you'll be surprised what a shop employee may tell you just to get a sale. Midlengths are more susceptible to this since they're essentially a cross between two mediums.

    I've had the best luck with pin tail midlengths. Good luck!
     
  20. HARDCORESHARTHUFFER-RI

    HARDCORESHARTHUFFER-RI Well-Known Member

    Sep 17, 2013
    if you need volume why not go to a performance oriented longboard? or even a classic longboard and learn to ride it proper......grown men hopping on tiny waves makes me die a lil inside