Is California really better then New Jersey??

I was lucky enough to live in San Clemente with walking the trail to trestles taking longer than driving from my house to the trestles lot. While crowded during the summer (south swell season) I was always able to get waves somewhere. If u can surf in October or November, u can have plenty of days pumping with just a few guys if u go mid morning due to all the grooms being back in school. I'm back in nj now n can't wait to move to Cali permanently. Jersey does have its days for sure, but if I surfed 4 days in a week in Cali, I considered that a slow week. Winter was more consistent since u have northern hemi storms that were closer which obviously knocks the swell period down n there's plenty of places that will light up on a wnw swell. I have so many amazing waves from there stacked in my memory bank to get me through these dreaded flat spells in jerz. U def won't regret the decision of at least giving it a few months out there. Jersey isn't going anywhere. U can always come back

 

So are you Chuck Allison?

And Ha, I have NEVER surfed Moss Landing. I just used that spot as an example. I also showed an example of what I think goes on here 97% of the time. Tales or tails..............

Don't be sore at me, MIS-13 aka Pee Wee. We need each other to make this site a little less monotonous. Like, we're on a thread where some chick or dude is axing whether California is really better than New Jersey and comparing summer water temperatures. I don't know, man. People act like they are deciated enough to MOVE but they don't surf in the winter. You see that type of stuff a lot here. I'm over it for at least a few days....

You know what a lot of you people should do......find a sh!t load of old surf mags and read them. Stay off the f'ing internet and read old surf mags. Oh and surf once in awhile, too. Brrrr it's 55 degress out there. This way you could answer y'all own questions without annoying Seldom Seen with the same barrage of constant questions......OI VEY !!!!

I'm not trying to be a d!ck , but good lord. It's really come to this, huh? All of us, we're all guilty. What are we doing? Why? Are we all in such desparate need to belong to some type of social clique? Some dude owns a pool because of us, and all we get is discussions aboot wetsuits and kale. A POOL !!! A F'ING POOL !!!

"Yeah I got some last words....F@ck all y'all....." (IceCube - before he went Disney soft)
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I am not allison anyone. I liked winter surfing, when there were waves, nothing better than the 5 mil and drainers for hours......but I will take my trunktacular paradise for now.

PJB you and I, while we may be azzhats/clowns here, are more entertaining than the troll trifecta that has been hijacking errythang. at the end of the day, my nemesis should know that I am glad he is there.

back to Cali, OP, please buy a copy of the stormrider guide to north america. every spot I listed is on this guidebook. Its a fun way to mindsurf the coast. I scored some unlikely spots (El cap and fort point) and some standards (rincon, steamer lane) and I had the time of my life, so jump on it man, its suuuper fun.

 

Ok I was busting your balls aboot Moss Landing, and no, I have never been to El Cap.......but that spot breaks three times a decade and is "reportedly" severly off-limits. Like totally. You ever been to Leo Carrillo?

I tried to stay off of SI for the last twenty minutes and I started to shake, sweat, vomit and stuff. I think I have a problem. I am chemically dependent on Swellinfo. Hey who's got some suboxone? I need help. Please someone. And Pee Wee you're a lot more fun than my other detractors. Oh what name do you prefer: Pee Wee or MIS-13. I'll extend that courtesy to you.

OMG, now I hear that we just bought the power that be a Mercedes. Great he's got a pool and a Mercedes. And lately all he has to do is type FLAT or 1-2' on every spot east of the Colorado River. This has been the longest stretch I have gone without surfing since I was trapped in Mays Landing. I wish it was last summer. I still don't know how some of youse guys had it so bad this summer.

 

Move to CA. If you don't like it, you can always go back. You wont go back!

 

there was 80 guys no joke when I scored el cap, it was maxing at about 3x overhead, on a sunday. I got a few waves, not many I was low man on totem pole.
(concep buoy was 27'@17 sec, wnw) some sets were closing out the point....I camped there and next day (monday) before gates opened and after sunrise I scored a bunch of drainers off the corner, just slabby and open drain doggies, perfect perfect waves, a bit overhead and make-able tubes that became wackable walls...then gates opened and the unwashed masses came in. still a ton of fun, that wave is very good on its day. Sean Thompson and Tim Curran were some of the names I recognized that were on it

you can call me whatever you want, I dont care. I have never been to Leo Carillo, I didnt like SoCal. it smelled funny, like douchebag combined with trailer park

and our debate in the fall should happen at Pic's in AC. the ambiance is outstanding. bring your talking shoes

 

At least if you move west you'll be able to venture into the mountain states and shoot people who are hunting wolves, if you were so inclined.

 

Yes it is better. Really better. In Santa Cruz, or just about anywhere else out there for that matter, waist- chest hi is basically a small day in between swells and wont even be crowded at the lesser spots. Oh and the lesser spots break as good or better than Jerseys prime spots. Go.

 

Sage brah, no word of a lie. It was during the Hurley Pro so I'm assuming that all the regulars steer clear from there during that event, or at least most of the regulars. A dozen charging at each of the Trestles spots, not 100. I'm sure it is 100 other times but I must have been fortunate. Not expecting any of the same small crowds there this weekend when I go back. But the swell looks like crap from Tuesday on so we will probably go north. And yeah, the etiquette was great. Really. Could've been that there weren't 100 peeps fighting for peaks but it's not like every peak was to be had solo. You put a northeast aggro with life (not just crowds) attitude in a lineup of mostly kooks who never see what a real wave is, and the EC can easily be full of lineup dysfunction. Not saying there aren't beefs out west, but there's a huge difference of flow and relative harmonic function across a group of people with proper experience versus not.

 

idk, as far as most spots north of santa barabara, jersey has better shape...that is, when you finally do get swell. We don't have any jetties, so wind and ground swell lines closing out the whole beach are an issue.

Up here, things are relatively isolated, too, so a lot of spots require a long drive and then maybe even a long walk. The water is always cold (4/3 mm) and summer is usually foggy and overcast...feels kinda like winter, actually. Those two, alone, weed out a lot of beginners and tourists.

Mornings are usually relatively calm, but it's also almost always super blown out by noon...expect it to always be at least somewhat onshore and you wont be disappointed. What we lack in shape, we make up for in consistency. Even in summer, most spots rarely ever drop below thigh high...but the tides are so extreme, you'll want a longboard or mega-groveler in the quiver to be able to surf every day.

Tipping the scales, we don't have any special summer parking restrictions/tags, we don't have black balls and you can surf under any pier, any time.

 

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Surfnurse, the good news is the waves are better in California and much more consistent. The bad news is you will have a hard time finding an uncrowded spot. Even up north.

 

I've had the opportunity to surf all over the east and all over Central-Southern California. I have yet to get totally skunked on my road trips in California, however California makes you pay for waves. Whether it's gas, rent, tax, food whatever, you are raped more consistently then there are waves. The variety of California is pretty awesome, beach breaks, reef breaks and point breaks in many towns. I miss the east though, the best sessions I have ever had were in Rhode Island and face it, there is nothing like the dredging barrels of jersey, cape cod and the outer banks during hurricane season.

 

MIS-13, so you're telling me that surfing has become such a zoo that El Cap is fair game to anyone. Jesus, they wouldn't even let Sam George surf there back in the day. And he's b!tchen. Wow.............sad, sad, sad........Where are all the tween and teenaged internet bullies going when they grow up? No one regulates in real life anymore.

Spicoli: Actually California's line-up's are the most vicious in the world. Australia? Oh come on, they're cute when they sack up after 40 Victoria Bitters......cute like kuala bears. Brazilians are 3 inches tall(Good lord I'm bigger than Brazzos) and keep their real power in the favelas, where the crack's at. Hawaiians, well, Sunny Garcia is tough guy on North Shore, but some years ago he got the snot beat out of him for mouthing off to the wrong car of LA toughs. That still didn't humble him. He's lucky he didn't get shot.

Anyways, Southern California is home of Amercia's best bullies. Like in the Northeast the new kid in school gets ignored...like totally. Then will get a few snide, cycnical comments thrown his way. This doesn't apply to inner city areas that are full of nut cases. They F with everyone and anyone. I'm strictly speaking suburban here.

In California it's open season on the new kid. I grew up in many different places and California wins hands down for an affinity to F with people. Though, they're mostly bark with no bite. Jeez, I had a 30-year-old man threaten to kill me when I was 10 and riding whitewater in Port Hueneme. Plus, it's also a matter of stats. More people surf in California than anywhere so you're going to have your share of angry mutts.

 

Oh Spicoli, one trip to San Clemente during a pro event doesn't make one an expert on West Coast surf spots and attitudes. And there's tons of clowns out there too. Southern California is the home of the spring suit, bootie wearing longboarder.

I'm not trying to hassle you, Spicoli, just keeping it real up in tha field. And you should be surfing for at least three years before you even hit Church........five years before Uppers or Lowers...........

Yo, next trip try Seaside, Oregon. And hey, why do you get to go on all of these trips? Are you selling base?

 

I can surf perfect 4-5 foot barrelling, offshore, beach breaks in NJ with 2-3 good friends and no one else.
That just doesn't happen in California anymore, ever.
More consistent waves, yes. Better surfers, yes. But not always better as far as experiences go.
You also have a massive influx of complete kooks in California because surfing is so damn popular and more part of the surf/skate culture there, especially in Southern Cal. Guys that are just in it for the chicks, or the scene, or to look cool. Guys that you would never find walking through knee deep snow in 5 mils with boots and gloves getting ready to paddle out in 8 foot dredging barrels. Those are the "surfers" I like to associate with. But that's just me.

 

Really?
Why is it about 90% of the people I have ever known from the East Coast move back then after a couple years in Cal?
They almost always come back.

 

I love surfing in SoCal, but the overall lifestyle and living standard compared to the east coast sucks IMHO unless you're making close to six-figures ... And if you're job is that good, you're probably throwing your life away in rush-hour traffic rather than surfing! ... Just kidding ... but seriously, to own my own stand-alone house with a yard 10 minutes from the beach, etc., etc. is really, really hard to-do in any populated area of CA without some serious cash ... I'm sure in more rural coastal areas further north that's a lot easier...

 

Yeah as the Stinkbug said.....they always come back.......add Florida in that mix too. Everybody up here(young people) are going to move to Florida......and they are back in no time. "The cost of living is so much cheaper down there..." Yeah, the salaries out there are also "so much" lower. They never equate that into the mix. Well there's big salaries to be had in Cullyfornia, but unless you're special in some ways you probably aren't going to get at 'em.

This California Dream has put visions of golden promises in peoples' heads. That dream died a long time ago. California has the second highest population loss in the country. People are leaving. They came full of hope with untangable dreams and left disappointed. 4 million Californians have moved to Texas in the recent years. Texas !! It's the hot state. Oh America, what a sad condition we have left you in.........

The born and bred Californians don't want you to come. They are sick of it. The rersources have shriviled-up.

If you are going out there and don't care if you sleep in a van and just want to surf........cool.

But if you think you're going to go out there and easily score a b!tchen job, you're sadly mistaken. And please don't tell me your going to be an actor................or one of them sassies on TMZ, kissing that People's Court reporter's arse, and axing celebrities soft questions. You Stuttering John rip-offs.

You'll end up doing gay porn in the San Fernando Valley, slanging rocks on Drew St, or..........or yep, Jacking It In San Diego. Sorry, but I just love that phrase and picturing jacking it and waving at cars on a city street..........fantastic.

And Northern California and Oregon are just horrible. Foggy, windswept, sharky, lonely,
Washington sucks, too. Unmanaged sandbars with lines and lines of whitewater......it rains every day.......the place even made Kurt Cobain kill himself(and he was so happy and full of life)

SO..........YOU ARE ALL STUCK........STUCK HERE IN NEW JERSEY AND NORTH CAROLINA AND FLORIDA.........HA HA HA HA YOU'LL NEVER LEAVE..............You'll die with Stucky's Pecan Log and Philly Scrapple running through your veins.........And once you leave, home is never the same when you come back.....really it never is.....