Fukishima update: Leak

Yeah man, that is why I stick to local seafood. The problem is that most of the country doesn't have that convenience.

 

How do you feel about our chickens being sent to China for processing then shipped back here? I'm sure they're plants are clean.

 

Not sure what brands do that. I can tell you the Tyson chicken plant processes the chicken on site. I can't see how shipping two ways would end up being cheaper.

 

kinda looks like it might be safer getting it done in China.
http://www.npr.org/blogs/thesalt/20...ugget-made-in-china-itll-soon-be-hard-to-know
"And, chicken lovers, brace yourselves: There's more. A report suggests chicken inspections here in the U.S. might be poised to take a turn for the worse. The Government Accountability Office this week it has serious "questions about the validity" of the new procedures for inspecting poultry across the country.

Basically, these changes would replace many USDA inspectors on chicken processing lines with employees from the poultry companies themselves. The USDA has been piloting the new procedures, which will save money and significantly speed up processing lines, in 29 chicken plants. As The Washington Post , the plan is to roll out the new procedures eventually to "most of the country's 239 chicken and 96 turkey plants."

You Esse, Ewe Assay!

 

I go to china ever other year to visit my inlaws. When ya go to a real market the slaughter the animal on sight. I have no issues with it. Others may. For the whole shipping slaughter thing I have never looked into it. I assume it is done on a ship just offshore. The furniture business has been doing this for years. Well those are some I'm my thoughts.

 

The Chinese use chickens to make furniture? the chairs aren't covered in red satin but rooster floppy parts.

 

One ship furniture, one slaughter ship. Skins go back to furniture ship to be tanned as seat covers, sold as ostrich skin seat covered chairs for us all to buy.

 

this is disturbing. HHS looking for 14 million doses of Potassium Iodide. Which just be distributed to those of us that have raised concerns about Fukishima.
http://www.thewestwire.com/hhs-orders-14-million-doses-of-potassium-iodide/

 

Seems like a legit news source.

And the commenters on that site are even bigger idiots. Many claiming to be taking KI since the disaster in Japan. It is always a good idea to poison your thyroid as protection against something that doesn't effect the US:
http://www.nbcnews.com/id/42135438/...-iodide-already-really-bad-idea/#.UsVR0hC1Wlo

I will just leave this here:
http://deepseanews.com/2013/11/true-facts-about-ocean-radiation-and-the-fukushima-disaster/
A blog with actual scientific references. Something the fear monger sites seem to always lack.

 

the arguments in the comments swection are pretty funny. Unlike here, they start with an apology instead of calling the guy a douche.

 

ya its true, there are more problems at that site. they could be having issues with loss of water for cooling down their used/spent nuclear fuel

http://www.theecologist.org/News/ne...down_mystery_steam_rising_over_reactor_3.html

http://rt.com/news/fukushima-steam-nuclear-reactor-064/

 

Thanks for the good link Brew. I got a bit agitated when the dude went from talking bq's (I barely understand this unit of measure if at all) to tbq's and pbq's without explaining what they are. For me the truth remains fogged in by terminology and measurements that are hard to understand. For such intelligent people, they have a tough time painting a black and white picture that's understandable for the non nuclear engineer part of the population.

Chich, you must have skimmed through the comments because that Neutronium dude filled my reading quota for the day rather quickly. He must be a genius. I want to completely understand everything Neutronium said but, wow it's a lot to wrap my head around on the first read. Plus algebra, calculus, and me don't get along to well.

So after reading the blog and then the Neutronium/George Kamburoff comments I find myself totally head f*cked with no opinion whatsoever on the subject because I barely understand what they're talking about. If I thoroughly studied the book those two wrote over the coarse of 4 comments, I would understand those comments only and still not know how safe people in certain areas may or may not be.

How about laymen's terms? They must know most people aren't nuclear physics freaks as they are.

How about a single measurement style that can be used across the board? I'm sure there is reason to measure radiation 50 different ways, but that doesn't help non nuclear physicists understand what's happening or what's going to happen. It's like very privileged information or something.

I'm not sure what mess is worse; Fukushima itself or the multitude of explanations attempting to describe the science of what's actually happening as a result of Fukushima.

Yours truly, Lost Boy

Ps I think I'll just eat some spent fuel rods and get it over with. That way I know for sure that I'm screwed and don't have to spend any more time wondering or deciphering nuclear physicist jargon. I know that sounds stupid but wtf.

 

Brew, upon further contemplation, I feel like the blog part clarifies quite a bit actually and the Neutronium dude in the comments just blew and overloaded my mind. I think that guy could simply rattle off ten more extremely detailed pages on the subject without batting an eye. His intelligence was very impressive. I'm seriously.

I don't know anything about nuclear science and I'm learning on the fly now because Fukushima could potentially affect us.

After reading that blog, I may even re-stoke my plans of migrating to a pacific location (for now).

Another positive note is I have a substantial and interesting learning challenge ahead of me. I love science, details, and learning believe it or not.

 

I read it and got a headache.
I worked at the local Nuke plant in when it opened in the mid 70's. A class was given to new employees and contractors. info on dressing out, how a yellow and magenta rope separates contaminated from uncontaminated areas and how to tell how much radiation one can get without harm. The 1st class I took, they said take your age, subtract 21 from it and that's how many REMs one can safely get. I was 24 so 3 Rems that year. The next year, it was stated that any amount of radiation causes bodily harm.
the first time I went in I had to go into a contaminated area. I called my dad that night and told him. He was an Army chemist and did a lot of work with military grade radioactive crap. He asked me if I was being monitored, and I said yes and got a dose of 8. "RADs or MRADS?" he asked. Not knowing I said Rads. "THAT'S TOO MUCH FOR PEACETIME EXPOSURE!" he yelled.
"Oh, MRADS I guess."
I told him about what my Geiger counter read on the flight to see him recently, and he raised his eyebrows. which is very expressive for him.

 

All one has to do is look at the inquisitive look on your pic to tell you learn good.

 

You guys convinced me there's nothing to worry about. TEPCO feels so bad about the accident, they're giving free heat to those by the reactor.
http://rt.com/news/fukushima-steam-nuclear-reactor-064/

 

There is definitely something to worry about if you live near Fukushima.

 

how near? like Hawaii or Cali?

 

Nihommatsu, Shiroishi, Takahata and maybe Inawashiro. Anything further should be fine

 

What he said. ^^^