44066 toast?

Discussion in 'Northeast' started by Guod, Jan 26, 2014.

  1. Special Whale Glue

    Special Whale Glue Well-Known Member

    Oct 8, 2011
    44066 was the last functioning buoy off NJ. It appears to have gone wacky.
    The current wind is west @ 10-15 and the buoy says ENE @ 10-17. The swell/wave heights seem off as well, but I'm not certain. It was nice when all three off NJ worked and you could cross reference the data. The buoys are an excellent tool for scoring waves when you learn what type of swell and conditions may work for a particular break. Plus I just like reading the data and observing the trends. I hope it gets serviced ASAP.
     
  2. SI_Admin

    SI_Admin Guest

    That does seem off. Weird.
    Ya, losing 44025, and 44065 really stinks for NJ.
    A lot of the buoys do go down a lot, and then eventually get restored.

    Perhaps just the wind is off.
     
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  3. worsey

    worsey Well-Known Member

    Oct 13, 2013
    buoy down (no not intermediate surfer but actual device)

    please also consider frozen apparati then stir in freezing spray….
     
  4. SI_Admin

    SI_Admin Guest

    Ah, good point.
    I bet its just the wind anemometer. The wave data is probably fine.
    And, that buoy is far enough off the coast, where the wind really isn't very telling of whats going on at shore.
     
  5. MFCondor

    MFCondor Well-Known Member

    426
    Nov 30, 2013
    I second that. I have thousands of hours at sea for my job and it is a lot different offshore sometimes. I also agree with the freezing water hindering the birds from being accurate. The coastal buoys off the coast of Delaware have ice covering most of the lower portion. The offshore buoys may be in a similar state. Maybe the ice out there is a bit higher on the structure.
     
  6. stinkbug

    stinkbug Well-Known Member

    746
    Dec 21, 2010
    NOAAs budget has been slashed in the Obama
    Years. They are hanging on by a shoe string. The buoys constantly need repair or replacement but it happens a lot less often now.
     
  7. MFCondor

    MFCondor Well-Known Member

    426
    Nov 30, 2013
    I'll be honest, NOAA's budget has been suffering for longer than 2008. President Obama hasn't helped but they were in despair long before he took the seat.

    The USCG works about 50% of their (NOAA's) buoys. USCG has the Buoy tenders to assist but unfortunately has to prioritize it's own missions first.

    I agree though, buoys, all buoys, need constant work and repair. The day ATON becomes a privatized industry, the better off it will be.
     
  8. Special Whale Glue

    Special Whale Glue Well-Known Member

    Oct 8, 2011
    The wind earlier today was definitely westerly out there. There is much less variability during stronger weather patterns. For example, the summer pattern around here is typically weak and the reason it goes SE in the afternoons on the island, while remaining west on the main land. The ice build up from the freezing spray created by the strong SSW wind yesterday makes the most sense. Checking the wind maps and taking the speed into account will verify it was west.

    The reason it turns SE during a weak pattern in warmer months is: warm air rises allowing the cooler ocean air to slide underneath, creating onshore flow. I'm still waiting for The Weather Channel to learn this. Maybe I should email them.

    I'm curious if the extra weight from ice build up throws the wave heights off too.
     
  9. Mr.Belmar

    Mr.Belmar Well-Known Member

    Aug 19, 2010
    Ya that really does stink... At least we know that it's always offshore, 50 degrees and 23 FT in Belmar,NJ

    No more checking forecast and conditions!! Just jump in your surf wagon and head straight to Belmar NJ
     
  10. Swellinfo

    Swellinfo Administrator

    May 19, 2006
    The wave measurent tools are completely under the water, so it shouldn't be a factor

     
  11. ThatSlyB

    ThatSlyB Well-Known Member

    323
    Aug 20, 2012
    Is there any info on 44065? Are they planning on repairing it any time soon? When exactly did it go down and what caused it? The thing survived Sandy if I'm not mistaken, yet it broke from something recently? lol. One day I thought the forecast looked off and checked and realized I was reading data from a different buoy. I had been looking at the wrong buoy for probably a week.

    Anyway, any update on it?
     
  12. SI_Admin

    SI_Admin Guest

    Here's the NDBC service schedule:
    http://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/ops.shtml

    44065 is transmitting wind, but not wave data, so most likely the wave guages failed. Its not on the service schedule, so who knows when it will get fixed.

    The buoys have problems all the time. Some times the equipment fails, sometimes the data transfer process fails, sometimes storms breaks things.


     
  13. EmassSpicoli

    EmassSpicoli Well-Known Member

    Apr 16, 2013
    Is there a list of inaccurate buoys or are the ones in service trusted to be accurate?
     
  14. SI_Admin

    SI_Admin Guest

    If the data is live, I'd assume its accurate. Obviously there is an issue with the wind on 44066, and likely the NDBC doesn't realize it.
     
  15. Special Whale Glue

    Special Whale Glue Well-Known Member

    Oct 8, 2011
    44066 appears to have thawed out!
    The water temp says 50f though. It's usually warmer out there but that seems like a stretch. Maybe a nice, big, fat eddie spun off the Gulf Stream current. If that's the case, I hope it spins all the way to the beach and gives this mid 30's water the boot! Mid 30's makes it hard to last beyond the 2 hour mark, or less without becoming a popsicle.
     
  16. Mr.Belmar

    Mr.Belmar Well-Known Member

    Aug 19, 2010
    Must be the Belmar,NJ buoy....

    #Always50inBelmarNJ
     
  17. mOtion732

    mOtion732 Well-Known Member

    Sep 18, 2008
    any chance of 065 coming back up?
     
  18. worsey

    worsey Well-Known Member

    Oct 13, 2013
    gnome knowin

    how bout an si gnome on a jet ski with a can of wd-40?: