Who are you voting for? Read this first!

Discussion in 'Mid Atlantic' started by wallysurfr, Oct 31, 2008.

  1. Zansurf

    Zansurf Well-Known Member

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    That was simply a discussion on Marxist theory and had no application for American politics. I understand your complaint, but you need to go back and talk to FDR before he created much of the new deal, and stop worrying about Obama or McCain because neither one of them will undo those policies anyway. Even if Obama tries to expand the government and the welfare state, we always have the supreme court thats what it's there for. The welfare state was created when there was a need for it, and it's hard to overturn something that has 80 years of precedent.
     
  2. wallysurfr

    wallysurfr Well-Known Member

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    no, it's called cut the pork!
     

  3. Zansurf

    Zansurf Well-Known Member

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    May 12, 2008
    I'm gonna revert back to my statement that it's hard to change something with so much precedent. The president has nothing to do with pork barrel spending.
     
  4. jbird

    jbird Well-Known Member

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  5. aka pumpmaster

    aka pumpmaster Well-Known Member

    Apr 30, 2008
    Under our system, a bill cannot become a law until the president signs it correct?
     
  6. Db2k5

    Db2k5 Well-Known Member

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    People are upperclass because they went out and became that way. They didn't party thier way through high school and flunk out of college. Liberals are quick to want everything to be fair. Guess what, life isn't fair GET OVER IT. Grow up, you sound like a 4 year old. Remember, we are given life liberty and the PURSUIT of happiness, we aren't garunteed happiness. We are garunteed that we are able to go out and get whatever we want. Nothing in this world is free, and you IGNORANT liberals asking for a handout all the time and wanting things to be fair sounds like a 13 year old girl. Just because you work a **** job, and are lazy doesn't mean that people should have to give you money because you can't get out of your own way. On one hand, people ***** about government spending, then they want the government to give them free everything, healthcare, schooling, food, daycare, the next thing you know, you idiots are going to be asking for a damn car. Grow up.

    To the rational people out there, who aren't total MEATBALLS, sorry for my rant.
     
  7. Db2k5

    Db2k5 Well-Known Member

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  8. wallysurfr

    wallysurfr Well-Known Member

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  9. Swellinfo

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    May 19, 2006
    incorrect. if a bill is vetoed by the president, it gets sent back to congress, who can overturn the veto with a two thirds vote:

    http://www.votesmart.org/resource_govt101_02.php
     
  10. aka pumpmaster

    aka pumpmaster Well-Known Member

    Apr 30, 2008
    Very true Micah but my point was that the President (by nature of signing spending bills) DOES have an impact on pork barrel spending.
     
  11. OBlove

    OBlove Well-Known Member

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    Your Reference?

    Your quote did not have intentions of your Swedish Grandmother. Your quote was directly aimed at African Americans. My Dad is black and I don't like you. Does anyone know where I can get some dub-dubs for my Escalade? And whens the next swell going to hit, this forum is heating up from our little flatspell and I need to cool off???
     
  12. jbird

    jbird Well-Known Member

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  13. Aguaholic

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  14. aka pumpmaster

    aka pumpmaster Well-Known Member

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  15. wallysurfr

    wallysurfr Well-Known Member

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    I hope your joking. The statement was not directed at african americans but immigrants who are here ILLEGALLY. That means they are not supposed to be here -or- they are breaking the LAW by being here.
     
  16. TDTubes

    TDTubes Well-Known Member

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    No other countries actual do not like our gov't because they act like police for the World, and having someone that has a similar name or looks more like them will make other countries believe that anything truly is possible in the USA and that we are not all just full of the "freedom" touting BS but sticking to the same old thing as always.

     
  17. aka pumpmaster

    aka pumpmaster Well-Known Member

    Apr 30, 2008
    Actually its more like this:

    "The hate for the country has no party lines....it is all based on the jealousy of our freedoms and rights and our wealth...including our freedoms and rights to vote for whomever we want."

    Especially in the muslim countries. Do some research on womens rights and the husband/wife dynamic in muslim areas. Muslim men are terrified of womens rights since that totally undermines their authority. So the preach hatred for the west (of which the US is the leader) as a way to keep those ideas from springing up.
     
  18. jbird

    jbird Well-Known Member

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  19. aka pumpmaster

    aka pumpmaster Well-Known Member

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  20. eastcoastgilson

    eastcoastgilson Active Member

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