The Real Price of Food

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  1. Special Whale Glue

    Special Whale Glue Well-Known Member

    Oct 8, 2011
  2. Mad Atom

    Mad Atom Well-Known Member

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    Jul 16, 2013
    That's a long list! Wow. Interesting article. What's the conversion ratio for livestock? I think it's 10-1, meaning it takes 10lbs of grain to get 1lb of meat. Maybe that's farm raised fish...can't remember. Anyway, one more reason to eat more veggies. Let's change some of those corn fields to produce fields.
     

  3. EmassSpicoli

    EmassSpicoli Well-Known Member

    Apr 16, 2013
    Good post Douglas. I spend way more than 6% of income on food and I'm eating for one most of the time. It's expensive as hell buying healthy and that's with me getting wholesale prices on fish living on the coast. That Chobani adds up, so do things like almonds, walnuts and all-natural granola. Damn bro, how bouts you subsistence farmers drop the knowledge here? How much land you need for a year of food? Gotta sharpen my spear. My Class A gun license does me little good as I've eaten little to no red meat and not much chicken for the last 3 years. I'm all for living off the land but it ain't a simple chore. Oh yeah, screw soy. Poison.
     
  4. aka pumpmaster

    aka pumpmaster Well-Known Member

    Apr 30, 2008
    this is why you shoot and grow your own.
     
  5. chicharronne

    chicharronne Well-Known Member

    Jun 22, 2006
    I'd love to be a vegetarian.



    But I don't like vegetables.

    It's a paradox I tells ya.
     
  6. surfingwasteland

    surfingwasteland Well-Known Member

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    Jul 24, 2011
    Couldn't agree with this more. While theres a cost for everything, it doesn't always have to be monetary. My girlfriend and I had a garden that fed us, our landlord and her kids through an entire summer. This year we plan on canning and storing food for winter, building a greenhouse and giving all season growing a go.

    Hunting has been on my list for a while, hopefully Ill aquire a bow and license for next season. We shall see.
     
  7. aka pumpmaster

    aka pumpmaster Well-Known Member

    Apr 30, 2008
    small game too. rabbit is really good
     
  8. sisurfdogg

    sisurfdogg Well-Known Member

    Jun 17, 2013
    I used to spear fish alot, but legal sizers on the shallow reefs you can freedive for are getting harder and harder to come by. I drag a rubbermaid bin mounted on a boogieboard with bungees, attached to my kayak with a longboard leash. That way fish go into the bin as soon as they are shot, leaving less blood in the water. I kind of gave that up, since I was getting less and less snapper and seeing more and more sharks. I figure the odds were eventually going to catch up with me. And fish is damn expensive.
     
  9. aka pumpmaster

    aka pumpmaster Well-Known Member

    Apr 30, 2008
  10. OldSoul

    OldSoul Well-Known Member

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    Nov 7, 2011
    Being mostly a vegetarian or even a half ass vegan will save you $$ and potential health risks. I just saw on world news last night how the price of meat and milk are going "up"...eat mostly fruits and veggies... stay away from dairy and meat when ever possible, avoid foods that come in a box lol. Not only will your body benefit but your wallet will too. Im not saying you gotta stop eating meat and dairy all together, just really limit it. If you have the resources to do so, start growing. This is where you will save cash...It is pretty peaceful, rewarding and not very difficult. Try and shop local too, plenty of small farms who have fresh food and decent prices, and at least it isn't going to some big company like walmart or wholefoods. We must join up and become a more self sustainable surfing community.
     
  11. bennysgohome

    bennysgohome Well-Known Member

    Nov 13, 2009
    Nothing better than shark steaks or plover burgers.
     
  12. aka pumpmaster

    aka pumpmaster Well-Known Member

    Apr 30, 2008
    thanks. now I'm craving a plover burger with bacon and GMO rolls.
     
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  13. worsey

    worsey Well-Known Member

    Oct 13, 2013
    yesterday i shot and ate my own pheasant. i overcooked it and it was terrible...
     
  14. CBSCREWBY

    CBSCREWBY Well-Known Member

    Feb 21, 2012
    There was a fall and winter when I was between jobs and had no money, we are talking church leaving boxes of food on porch poor, and I didn't belong to any church... where me, my wife and two kids under they age of 6 lived off what small game I shot, the three deer I got, veggies we had canned and potatoes. Looking back it was tough, but kind of rewarding. We didn't realize we were poor poor until the church gave us boxes of food for Christmas.
    Now we still have a garden, and last week just finished off the last of this fall's venison.
    During the summer, my wife and I try to do a couple of days a week living on what we grow and catch at the beach. Now it's more for fun, but it's good to knowledge to have.
     
  15. Special Whale Glue

    Special Whale Glue Well-Known Member

    Oct 8, 2011
    I grow an organic garden and fish to supplement my food consumption, but it only puts a small dent in what I consume. Ultimately I'd like to grow a huge organic garden, spearfish a lot and hunt a little, year round. NJ is not the place for that and the places I was considering are slowly getting contaminated with radiation.

    I got a kick out of how little average Americans spend on food, being at the bottom using 6% of their income while less developed countries spend way more.

    That list (via link in article) of ingredients Whole Foods won't accept is gnarly. How much of that crap have we unknowingly consumed? Food scientists and the money whore companies that employ them are duesh bags! Again, the bottom line is money not people (for them). That's pretty horrible.
     
  16. HARDCORESHARTHUFFER-RI

    HARDCORESHARTHUFFER-RI Well-Known Member

    Sep 17, 2013
    Doug, you sound like you like gardening, right on! one day I will post some pics of my aquaponics setup.
    There are rural areas in Colorado where you can buy a house for under 20k and make that back in a year as a gardener, then buy and setup a greenhouse for extended growing season. Julesburg Colorado: sugar beets galore!

    did you see FINCEN allowed banks to process ganja money? a lot of mj stocks went up
    "GrowLife (PHOT) shares increased 8.5% compared to 30% for Tranzbyte (ERBB) stock and 15% for AVT (AVTC) stock, according to the Marijuana Stock Index" http://www.mainstreet.com/article/m...ver-after-soaring-talk-bank-regulation-reform



    Rural coastal Washington is also ripe for the burnt surfer to make their own paradise, start with ganja, grwo your food and income and voila, you are golden
     
  17. yankee

    yankee Well-Known Member

    Sep 26, 2008
    Ahhhhh, but it gets even better kidz.

    Just wait until the effects of the North American drought (ongoing) are felt in your supermarket & in your wallet in the very near future.

    It's going to be bad. $6 bell peppers...? You betcha.

    Cattle herds are at their lowest point in about 40 years in this country because ranchers can’t afford to feed them and the normal rangeland only supports 50% of what it did five years ago because of the drought all across the west.

    With the drought in CA, here's a scary little chart:

    http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-zrvxYwKlHLc/UD2Nn4ZrfsI/AAAAAAAABD4/Z1qcM5SSczU/s400/dry4.png

    You might want to grow a few staples along with that ganja, hermano.
     
  18. Special Whale Glue

    Special Whale Glue Well-Known Member

    Oct 8, 2011
    I like to garden for sure! I'm half decent at it too.

    I'd freak out in Colorado MIS, no ocean, no go. Pacific NW, maybe. I'd rather sweat then shiver, so I'm looking for a warmer climate. I've been in NJ my whole life and I'm ready to bail. Fukushima has me pumping the breaks pretty hard though.

    Getting in on those stocks is probably a good idea because I think legalization will spread even more.

    Yank, can't the government just spray some chemicals from planes to make the drought stop droughting? Maybe the weather pattern will shift back without chemtrails though?
     
  19. OldSoul

    OldSoul Well-Known Member

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    Nov 7, 2011
  20. surfingwasteland

    surfingwasteland Well-Known Member

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    Jul 24, 2011
    Don't discount NJ for year round crops quit yet mang. A little research and alot of hardwork and you could potentially grow all year.... (greenhouses with seasonable foods) New Jersey was a leading state in agriculture in the beginning of our existence in this country, no doubt it's much different today, but the farming concepts are generally the same.

    Check out Geoff Lawton, hes a permaculture genius, and has a series on cold weather food forests.