Offshore oil rigs coming from delaware to florida

Discussion in 'All Discussions' started by worsey, Feb 28, 2014.

  1. Special Whale Glue

    Special Whale Glue Well-Known Member

    Oct 8, 2011
    Dude, I just logged out, logged in, logged off, logged out again, put one thumb in my ear, the other in my butt, switched thumbs, re-logged off, and it worked fine.

    And you should join everything, just to be safe.
     
  2. njsurfer42

    njsurfer42 Well-Known Member

    Nov 9, 2009
    that's a bull**** argument that i've never understood the logic of. i mean, those are generally the only options in a lot (most) regions, & in other, alternatives aren't economically priced as yet. i assure you, if there WERE another option, i'd switch to it immediately. i think most people would. hell, if i had, or could get, the $$, i'd line my roof w/ solar panels & take my home off the grid completely. i'd generate my own electricity & have more $$ in my pocket at the end of the month b/c i wouldn't be paying an electric or gas bill.
     

  3. Inland

    Inland Well-Known Member

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    Sep 4, 2011
    You would still have to be on the grid most of the time. The panels only work so many hours a day. Then you would be back to electricity generated by coal, oil, gas, or possibly from the nuke plant.

    My point is we all use these fuel sources every day. It all seems fine as long as the source isn't from our backyard.

    As for you not being able to afford solar, there's some pretty good deals out there if you want to have a long term lease. No money out of your pocket to install. Then a monthly fee for like 15 years. A friend of mine is looking into it now.

    And for the record, I don't want to see these rigs off our shore either. I'd rather see it come from land based rigs.
     
  4. DosXX

    DosXX Well-Known Member

    Mar 2, 2013
    That plus all the other petroleum-based products we use and have grown dependent upon. I'm more concerned about the problems related to the use of nuclear energy.
     
  5. worsey

    worsey Well-Known Member

    Oct 13, 2013
    were rocdoc not a shill he would still be pressing his argument, no? sigh……and rocdoc if you are a shill
    i take it back when i said 'your opinion important to me.'
     
  6. surfingwasteland

    surfingwasteland Well-Known Member

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    Jul 24, 2011
    Oil isn't the issue here. The human beings reliance on energy is the problem. No matter what the energy youre gonna have overwhelming environmental impact.

    Windfarms could potentially screw up the birds migration routes

    Solar panels could potentially screw up areas they cover on the ground.

    The overabundance of anything is detrimental to the environment, and unfortunately we struggle with overpopulation, which then leads to issues mentioned here.

    Humanity is on its extinction path, just like every other species that once roamed the earth. Fortunately earth will recover and host life after us.
     
  7. brewengineer

    brewengineer Well-Known Member

    Jun 22, 2011
    I like to be optimistic, and hope that technology will help solve our energy needs. However, even as things get more efficient, our desire for more things grows. Thus, we have a rapidly increasing global energy consumption. I still believe that there are too many of us on this planet. Overpopulation leads to lack of resources, with energy being a key resource.
     
  8. brewengineer

    brewengineer Well-Known Member

    Jun 22, 2011
    Nuclear energy needs more regulation globally, but we couldn't live in our current energy sucking society without it. I am still hoping all the fusion energy research goes somewhere.
     
  9. Erock

    Erock Well-Known Member

    Aug 6, 2011
    http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/02/26/offshore-wind-farms-tame-hurricanes/5813425/

    OK, so they use Sandy as an example to invoke as much emotion as possible... but I can see how this could be a bad thing. If big wind farms can reduce the winds as much as they say, we can kiss any windswell with a decent fetch goodbye.
    I dunno, the study takes so many liberties it's hard to tell if there is ANY real-world application in their findings.


    In other news: Hyundai, Mr. T(oyota), Nissan and Honda have Hydrogen fuel cell vehicles on the brink of mass production--Hyundai will be the first to market.
    This is cool. If I can get my 'Cruiser's engine to last long enough that I can do a hydrogen fuel cell swap instead of a diesel swap, I'll be super stoked.
     
  10. KillaKiel

    KillaKiel Well-Known Member

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    Feb 21, 2012
    Necessity is the mother of invention

    The boycott of the Mobile, AL bus lines led to changes

    Follow the money

    I hate to say, but another argument that oil will state is oil costs so much because it can't be pumped out fast enough. Where are my tech school and diesel mechanics at? That is what they have been teaching at some of these tech schools I won't throw under the bus.

    People respond to incentives. Economics 101. I can go into a rant but I will be succinct (today).
     
  11. brewengineer

    brewengineer Well-Known Member

    Jun 22, 2011
    I am an engineer in the diesel industry. There is a huge surplus of oil, but they could easily sell every drop that pumps out of the ground. Oil is expensive because it is a high demand product with few suppliers. It is also traded in strange ways with investors dealing in futures. It is my personal opinion that oil is a rather cheap resource, when compared to many other things. We just use too much of it. When you take into consideration that the best engines out there (compression ignition) still waste a lot of energy, it isn't shocking that we blow through oil.
     
  12. sisurfdogg

    sisurfdogg Well-Known Member

    Jun 17, 2013
    The wind blows after dark brah.
     
  13. Erock

    Erock Well-Known Member

    Aug 6, 2011
    The small % of diesel vehicles in America is appalling. All this talk about needing to get better gas mileage, people going bananas over a gasser that gets an underwhelming 30 mpg on the highway, "green" hybrids that *might* get you over 40 mpg around town but drink like a V6 on the highway... meanwhile diesel owners (not the redneck Ford F250, chipped, over-fueled sooters) enjoy around 30% better fuel economy.

    Man, if half the driving population were driving diesels there would be a greatly significant reduction in our fuel use as a nation--with no real sacrifice to performance and power. Plus, diesel is easier to refine, doesn't blow up as easy as gas, doesn't require different blends depending on the season, can be substituted by fryer oil, is almost zero emission when paired with urea injection and an EGR system, the engines can outlive an average human... the list goes on.

    We don't need more oil rigs... we need to drive more diesels.
    For instance:
    My Cruiser: 1988, 4L I-6, 120hp, 140(ish) lb/ft torque = 13 mpg town, 16 mpg highway
    Throw in a 4L or less I-4 Cummins, Isuzu, Mitsu or Mr. T turbo diesel mildly tuned: 150 hp, 260+ lb/ft torque = 22+ mpg town, 28+ highway.

    Brew: I hope to be talking with you about turbos, intercoolers and fuel tuning within the next year.
     
  14. njsurfer42

    njsurfer42 Well-Known Member

    Nov 9, 2009
    also bull****. if we actually spent the time to increase the efficiency of solar panels, you could charge up batteries or generators to run off of when the panels weren't actively collecting, such as at night or extremely cloudy days.

    even IF you had to occasionally switch back to power co. supplied energy, it would still be drastically reduced compared to how things currently are. it would be a step in the right direction.
     
  15. chicharronne

    chicharronne Well-Known Member

    Jun 22, 2006
    you don't have to be a weather man to know which way the wind blows, Homes.
     
  16. viajerodevida

    viajerodevida Well-Known Member

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    Oct 21, 2012
    Ok, that's it. I'm going to start reading The Monkey Wrench Gang this weekend.
     
  17. Special Whale Glue

    Special Whale Glue Well-Known Member

    Oct 8, 2011
    You may want to look a little deeper into solar energy.
    Do you know what a capacitor is?
    How about a magnifying glass?
    Anyone I know with panels on their roof, doesn't have an electric bill.
    They do, however, receive monthly checks from the power company.

    At that point you could change to electric heat and electric cars powered solely by the sun. The sun is free and fuel/energy companies can't bill you for it and that's the problem. It's about as stupid as Best Buy only selling tape decks and record players even though better technology exists, just to keep the record player and tape deck companies in business. It's the classic money now, earth later concept which is rediculously foolish and rampant worldwide. The "not in my backyard" concept is rediculously foolish as well. The entire planet is our backyard. Everything is connected to everything else, which is old news, and anyone ignoring that FACT is a complete moron.

    This is the highest level of ignorance, because it's not sustainable, it's ruining the planet, poisoning all animals that exist here, and ultimately threatening our existence.............. But at least we're warm and toasty in our homes........... Give me a f~cking break.

    Inland, do you know what happened to the patents for carboraters made in the 60's and 70's that got over 60 mpg?

    Do you think it's coincidental that all vehicles in 2014 only get 20-30 mpg on average ?

    Wake up and smell the pcb's.
     
  18. Special Whale Glue

    Special Whale Glue Well-Known Member

    Oct 8, 2011
    It's pretty fishy how every time I write things of this nature it disappears and I need to re-log in multiple times.
     
  19. brewengineer

    brewengineer Well-Known Member

    Jun 22, 2011

    Nice, and I agree.
     
  20. brewengineer

    brewengineer Well-Known Member

    Jun 22, 2011
    Any car getting 40-50 mpg in the 70's would never pass emissions today. I work of the automotive manufacturers. We are suppressing more efficient engine technology. We just have sh1t tons of emissions regulations to work with, and most reduce fuel economy.
    I am 100% with you on solar energy. It is something I would like on my home.
     
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