Best type of board for nj steep waves

Discussion in 'Mid Atlantic' started by surf&turf85, Mar 12, 2014.

  1. surf&turf85

    surf&turf85 Member

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    Nov 8, 2013
    Alright been using a 6'8'' funboard with barely any rocker, and been having troubles with steeper nj waves. Thinking of getting new step-up 6'4'' board or shorter (both must have a decent rocker). I'm 5'7'' and weigh 160. Whats best design board for steep nj waves that are border-line close outs.
     
  2. metard

    metard Well-Known Member

    Mar 11, 2014
    border-line close outs

    lol
     

  3. Mitchell

    Mitchell Well-Known Member

    Jan 5, 2009
    Most "funboards" actually have quite a bit of rocker. Have you actually measured the rocker? Either way, a rockered out 6'4" step up is for well overhead waves, and wont necessarily help you out that much with most steep waves (IMO more about paddle skill) or borderline closeouts (just look at it as an opportunity and be thankful you arent surfing mush!). Once you get to your feet the step-up is not going to be any faster, and may actually be slower down the line than other board options. There really arent many days on the east coast where a 160 pounder needs a 6'4" step-up, and there are a lot of days where its a really bad choice. Speak to a local shop or shaper, bring the board you have now, and try to realisitically assess what is happening when you drop into a steep wave and try to come back up into the first section.
     
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  4. LBCrew

    LBCrew Well-Known Member

    Aug 12, 2009
    If you're surfing a particularly dumpy, punchy, hollow wave, I've always found a board with normal shortboard rocker and a bit more flex actually works best. You can add a little width and/or volume to the tail as well. But the fact is there are many standard board shapes that do well in our local surf. It's just that some work even better when you start to really fine tune your equipment to a particular spot and swell.
     
  5. RIsurfer

    RIsurfer Well-Known Member

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    Dec 5, 2012
    How old are you dude? Sounds like you're kinda young but I don't want to assume.
     
  6. RIsurfer

    RIsurfer Well-Known Member

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    Dec 5, 2012
    Nevermind, reality just set in.
     
  7. wavehog1

    wavehog1 Well-Known Member

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    Sep 20, 2013
    Steep waves that are "borderline closeouts".... I guess you are meaning fast waves are best ridden with smaller boards that are more maneuverable. They don't necessarily have to have more rocker. The newer style boards being ridden now actually have less rocker.

    I think you have troubles riding fast, steep waves because you are riding a cumbersome board. Not sure what your experience is but I've been surfing all my life and would find it challenging riding those kind of waves on your current equipment.

    "Funboards" are just that.... they are shaped for going out and just having a good time on. The shape is halfway between a shortboard and longboard. Their design is made to more easily catch waves yet still have some maneuverability to perform a little easier than a longboard.

    If you're looking for more rocker or something a little faster and maneuverable maybe try a bigger "fish" style board. Probably like a 6'4" or 6'6" in that range. Either that or have a smaller style funboard thinned out.
     
  8. njsurfer42

    njsurfer42 Well-Known Member

    Nov 9, 2009
    i agree w/ LB here. you don't want to get too crazy w/ rocker b/c at some point, you're going to reach a point where the drawbacks of lots of rocker will be outweighing the benefits. in fact, a little LESS tail rocker would be beneficial in those conditions. i like to push the wide point a bit forward of center as well, as this gives you a bit more paddle power w/out having to go up in volume. this is why designs like the hypto krypto & others work so well in critical, punchy surf up to a certain size. think rusty slayer or ci deep six.
     
  9. jettyflea

    jettyflea Well-Known Member

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    Apr 12, 2013
    I'm curious. Why would you want less tail rocker? I would think rocker on the tail would bring the nose up when putting weight on the tail and this would prevent pearling on steep drops. This is under the assumption of a more vertical drop in into a bottom turn. If it's a fast dumpy wave which requires angled take off under the lip, then less tail rocker makes sense.
     
  10. worsey

    worsey Well-Known Member

    Oct 13, 2013
    s-i-m-o-n a-n-d-e-r-s-o-n

    sounds like a job for a standard hpsb.:cool:
     
  11. njsurfer42

    njsurfer42 Well-Known Member

    Nov 9, 2009
    in those types of waves, you're likely not going to make the wave if you drop straight down the face & then make your bottom turn. tail rocker is great if you're looking to loosen the board up & do turns. but for steep, racy, lined up waves, you're just looking to get in, get shacked, & get out. nose rocker will do more than tail rocker to prevent the front from sticking or digging. maybe a cutback or something if the wave allows it. generally, that's not the case here in jerz, but if the wave does offer an end section where you can fit a turn or something, a flatter tail rocker isn't going to hinder that.
     
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  12. Agabinet

    Agabinet Well-Known Member

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    May 3, 2012
    +1 for the comment on angling your takeoff and setting the inside rail! I have surfed that Jersey closeout stuff (well, except at Belmar where all the waves are AWESOME) on a 9 foot HPLB. However . . . For punchy waves, but not going to short, I have enjoyed a Sharpeye Blowfish. I'm 6' and 160, and use a board that's about 46 liters, it's a 7' Sharpeye. 'Cause I ain't the sharpest shredder in the lineup. And I'm OLD.
     
  13. jettyflea

    jettyflea Well-Known Member

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    Apr 12, 2013
    That makes sense. Probably why a lot of people are liking those lost mini drivers around here. I have a black thumb which holds in hollow waves but has tail rocker. I still don't know enough about surfboard shapes. I'm sure there is other things going on in the black thumb including the tail, which allows it to have tail rocker and hold a line in hollow waves.
     
  14. cepriano

    cepriano Well-Known Member

    Apr 20, 2012
    I see guys get barreld on longboards.it really doesn't matter what kind of board u ride,its all about feet placement.guys stand up on boogie boards and get barreled.a lot of newjacks try boards that they aren't ready for yet and u can get seriously hurt.my everyday board is a 6'2 and I ride it for all conditions in jersey.needs to be atleast 3 ft or its impossible to paddle into anything under 3 ft.i see people take off behind the lip.crazy stuff people are doing nowadays.my advice is take ur time and when the new board calls,u answer.i haven't bought a board in 6 years
     
  15. surf&turf85

    surf&turf85 Member

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    Nov 8, 2013
    Thanks for the info guys. Too much stuff to know about board shapes. I've been surfing a decent amount but haven't been very consistent until recently. Once waves start getting steeper is when i start having problems. Felt like it was my board(7s 6'8'' fish) Was actually thinking about trying to use a longboard (9'2'') so i can get into the waves earlier. So a 6'4'' al merrick k-step up board wouldnt be a good idea?
     
  16. metard

    metard Well-Known Member

    Mar 11, 2014
    are you like 12 years old bro
     
  17. cepriano

    cepriano Well-Known Member

    Apr 20, 2012
    who cares if hes 12,when are u supposed to learn how to surf,when your 40?dont hate on the groms,
     
  18. Mattyb

    Mattyb Well-Known Member

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    Apr 2, 2013
    Sounds like your still getting used to your ability. Maybe check out a shortboard with a ton of volume close to a fish blank. Like something similar to the hypto krypto. They are very versatile and really help improve your confidence in manipulating the board. But it really doesn't matter what you ride, just that you do it as much as possible. After a good amount of sessions, you will feel more confident in knowing what you want. Good luck
     
  19. SurfJdog

    SurfJdog Well-Known Member

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    Sep 28, 2008
    Nobody mentioned fins. If you find a real stiff and larger fin that will help hold too.
     
  20. Thunderpossum

    Thunderpossum Well-Known Member

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    May 17, 2013
    If you're riding a fish shape, it's going to have a low rocker in general. Switching up to a hpsb shape will have more rocker, which if you are consistently pearling on your drops may help. However, going from a high volume fish to a a k step up that is 4 inches shorter, you are losing a solid amount of foam, both in the length and probably in the width and thickness as well. As a result, it won't be as easy to paddle into waves, but it can help make a steep drop easier to make.