Hws blanks

Discussion in 'Surfboards and Surfboard Design' started by Cuck Taylor, Mar 7, 2014.

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  1. Apr 9, 2014 #41
    EmassSpicoli

    EmassSpicoli Well-Known Member

    6,319
    Apr 16, 2013
    That's a serious post. Spread The Stoke Tour 2K14. You heard the Senior Member's orders Chuckles, let's get this done.

    I've got no issue hitting the break with seldom that day. Probably more time on the wood for me if he's sponging. And we be tipping Yuenglings after the sesh. Make no mistake about it.
     
    EmassSpicoli, Apr 9, 2014
    EmassSpicoli, Apr 9, 2014
  3. Apr 9, 2014 #42
    Cuck Taylor

    Cuck Taylor Well-Known Member

    853
    Jul 6, 2013
    mike leet thank you for the stoke. The HWS blanks grass roots marketing agenda does entail product giveaways, such things are the result of an advertising expense. This said HAWAII is FAR OUT. since your stoke is so contagious I could see a blank making the trans pacific crossing, but lets remember these products are not finished surfboards they are simple close tolerance blanks, I'm not giving away surfboards, I'm giving a select few blanks out, to members who exhibit the most stoke,. Mike you're winning so far brofa. far out
     
    Cuck Taylor, Apr 9, 2014
    Cuck Taylor, Apr 9, 2014

  5. Apr 9, 2014 #43
    garbanzobean

    garbanzobean Well-Known Member

    257
    Sep 15, 2010
    Would be real cool to get a blank of some lighter wood. Any luck sourcing some balsa, paulownia, or some of that cactus wood that I seen Gary Linden do a few boards out of a few years back? What was that stuff? Agave? A 12 lb. shortboard would hurt me when I crash as I tend to do often. 6 lbs. feels nice to me. Surfing heavy wooden boards are a chore and mess with my precious timing I have tried so hard to get right.
     
    garbanzobean, Apr 9, 2014
    garbanzobean, Apr 9, 2014
  6. Apr 9, 2014 #44
    newenglandflatness

    newenglandflatness Well-Known Member

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    Oct 12, 2012
    All free things aside, assuming you have finished a few for yourself, if you're willing to do it, hit me up and I will come up to Southern ME and give one a go when there's a swell running. 100% honest review. I'm sure I'm not the only one willing, you can probably get a few SI locals to come by and give it a shot and get a committee review without paying shipping.

    You out there this morning Charles? I'm counting minutes at the desk and hoping it's not down to knee high when I get out.



    This doesn't mean I'm not down for a free blank, I am :D
     
    newenglandflatness, Apr 9, 2014
    newenglandflatness, Apr 9, 2014
  7. Apr 9, 2014 #45
    Lipsmacker

    Lipsmacker Well-Known Member

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    Sep 17, 2012
    What exactly has to be done to the blank to make it a complete board? This is a serious question. Could you tell us ,step by step, the process of completing the board? Thanks
     
    Lipsmacker, Apr 9, 2014
    Lipsmacker, Apr 9, 2014
  8. Apr 9, 2014 #46
    Cuck Taylor

    Cuck Taylor Well-Known Member

    853
    Jul 6, 2013
    Thanks for the wonderful comment.
    to finish these kit blanks you only need a long block hand sander which will be included, a belt sander, and some finish hand sanding materials and something to seal the board with like oil or resin. a orbital sander is a nice thing to add too.
    Im approaching these blanks with a belt sander equipped with 36 grit sand paper and just laying into the rail bands. then making hand adjustments on the rail bands with the long block hand sander which also equipped with 36 grit sand paper. then I blend off the rail bands to define the rail apex and smooth it all out using a strip of 36 grit sandpaper (like the shark skin approach used on foam when blending the rail facets into the rail apex). Also while shaping and sanding the board, I shape down the hardware to lay flush with the board. these blanks have pre installed hardware, however fin placements will have options and can be altered by a consumer upon request. For example I can offer the fish blank with twins with 0 toe in or i can toe it in x amount, depending on the request. Or add quad fin fittings. for example the fish blanks that are currently built shaped and in use are using free running twins with a symmetric foil, its a wicked skatey feel.

    as for shaping the rail bands with a belt sander with 36 grit, our youtube will spell out the reduction approach very well. also rail bands are slightly customizable too, its up to the shaper to decide were to start that hard bottom edge towards the tail and rail apex shape is also slightly alterable per consumer too. however each blank is pre designed to accept certain shape contours, like some blanks might be built to accept some bottom concave while others should remain flat bottomed, this is all relevant to maintaining the 1/2 inch continuous wall thickness (wall thickness is the distance between the inside chambers and the exterior of the board). a fully finished blank will shrink just a bit leaving more like 6/16 of an inch continuous wall thickness. maintaing the wall thickness is very important and not hard to abide too, hence why each blank depending on its design will have specific instructions via youtube.

    the process will be very meticulously and simply spelled out with entertaining youtube sessions which will come to define the products is my hope. did I mention that the blanks are already foiled and outlined too. So rail shape, bottom contours, finish sanding and sealing is left to the consumer, and this is why these products will be priced very attractively. deck shape isn't a major element of our products, but lets say a blank is designed to accept knifey rails, then the deck will be designed to allow that slight bit of convex dome which we see in shapes today.

    thanks for asking I'm happy to entertain more as you guys are lending me valuable insights.
     
    Cuck Taylor, Apr 9, 2014
    Cuck Taylor, Apr 9, 2014
  9. Apr 11, 2014 #47
    leetymike808

    leetymike808 Well-Known Member

    752
    Nov 16, 2013
    So you dont even have to have a planer to get the shape out?? Thats pretty chill.

    But in all seriousness Charles hit me up, lets work out a plan to get me one of those bad boys. I really wanna try a wood board.
     
    leetymike808, Apr 11, 2014
    leetymike808, Apr 11, 2014
  10. Apr 11, 2014 #48
    seldom seen

    seldom seen Well-Known Member

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    Aug 21, 2012
    This thread is great! That was a solid itinerary you put together yank. Spread the Stoke Tour 2014. Been meaning to get me a fish for the sloppy summertime stuff. Check the FB page fellers, the boards do look lovely.
     
    seldom seen, Apr 11, 2014
    seldom seen, Apr 11, 2014
  11. Apr 11, 2014 #49
    ChavezyChavez

    ChavezyChavez Well-Known Member

    2,613
    Jun 20, 2011
    Crap, I don't do Facebook! Does that mean I don't get a Yankee-recommended free board? Charles, any plans for a quad?
    And best of all, if you send me one, I will take it up to Brigantine so PJB can take it for spin and we can get HIS feedback!
     
    ChavezyChavez, Apr 11, 2014
    ChavezyChavez, Apr 11, 2014
  12. Apr 11, 2014 #50
    Tlokein

    Tlokein Well-Known Member

    2,000
    Oct 12, 2012
    Chuck,

    I know you're not sending out finished boards but Yank has a good idea about sending the boards on a tour. Maybe send blanks to some shapers on the E and W coast and have them finish then spread the boards around and let multiple people try it. That way you could get feedback\reviews\promo materials from shapers AND from riders instead of just one group or the other. For example if you got say Jimmy Keith\Greg Eavey\Dru McDaniels\etc. to agree to finish one they could shape it for SE NC waves and then all the SE NC\SC folks could give it a whirl. You could eliminate the whole "not shaped right for our waves" argument and would be a good test of the difference in construction and materials and less about the shape.

    I'd love to try one of your boards and would give an honest review but I wouldn't trust myself to shape it, I'd probably butcher it. But if you got it in the hands of a local shaper I'd be more than happy to give it a go.

    Seeding the marketplace with free stuff is a great way to grow your biz.

    Good luck on your biz Chuck.
     
    Tlokein, Apr 11, 2014
    Tlokein, Apr 11, 2014
  13. Apr 11, 2014 #51
    ChavezyChavez

    ChavezyChavez Well-Known Member

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    Jun 20, 2011
    In all seriousness, Tlokein is right. I would send out some boards to people on SI that have proven they are knowledgeable in board design and have experience in trying different boards in different conditions. NJSURFER42 and EROCK are two names that pop up. I would also send one to your biggest critic, the Yank. Then, you'll get REAL feedback.
    Good luck. I am truly interested in seeing you succeed. You're not acting like the know-all, be-all of board design like a certain jacka$$ on here.
     
    ChavezyChavez, Apr 11, 2014
    ChavezyChavez, Apr 11, 2014
  14. Apr 11, 2014 #52
    Mad Atom

    Mad Atom Well-Known Member

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    Jul 16, 2013
    Count me in as a local tester. I'm 20 mins away, G.
     
    Mad Atom, Apr 11, 2014
    Mad Atom, Apr 11, 2014
  15. Apr 11, 2014 #53
    yankee

    yankee Well-Known Member

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    Sep 26, 2008
    Gracias Chavy. However, I would humbly defer that board to any of the guys I listed in my chucka-board-tour-of-america. Reason being, boo-boo wouldn't believe me if I had anything critical to say, as well as I kinda don't want to have to touch chucka-boo-boo's wood, to pun madly for a moment.

    If you build it, boo-boo, they will come.
     
    yankee, Apr 11, 2014
    yankee, Apr 11, 2014
  16. Apr 11, 2014 #54
    White Sea Ape

    White Sea Ape Well-Known Member

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    Dec 8, 2013
    how can you sleep at night knowing that a latex beating lunatic lives only 20 mins from you?
     
    White Sea Ape, Apr 11, 2014
    White Sea Ape, Apr 11, 2014
  17. Apr 11, 2014 #55
    34thStreetSurfing

    34thStreetSurfing Well-Known Member

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    Aug 13, 2009
    Ill take one for the price of on the house
     
    34thStreetSurfing, Apr 11, 2014
    34thStreetSurfing, Apr 11, 2014
  18. Apr 12, 2014 #56
    chicharronne

    chicharronne Well-Known Member

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    Jun 22, 2006
    I'd love one. But it would only make it flatter here.
     
    chicharronne, Apr 12, 2014
    chicharronne, Apr 12, 2014
  19. Apr 12, 2014 #57
    cepriano

    cepriano Well-Known Member

    4,626
    Apr 20, 2012
    so are u only making wooden blanks or foam aswell?how does a wooden board perform,they look heavy.u should go to some local east coast beaches and host a demo where u let everyone try the boards out.thats the only way to get good business.iv never seen nor rode or even knew anyone who rode a wooden board.i imagine one of those old Hawaiian boards that way 250lbs but shorter version that probably weighs 30.it looks like u can get hurt getting hit by one of those boards,idk maybe they are light.
     
    cepriano, Apr 12, 2014
    cepriano, Apr 12, 2014
  20. Apr 12, 2014 #58
    leetymike808

    leetymike808 Well-Known Member

    752
    Nov 16, 2013
    If you make them outta a lighter wood, i.e, balsa, pauwalonia (sp??), then they are close to the standard foam weights, 8-10lbs. I beleive, im not Charles nor have i ever ridden one, ive just read a lil here and there.
     
    leetymike808, Apr 12, 2014
    leetymike808, Apr 12, 2014
  21. Apr 15, 2014 #59
    Cuck Taylor

    Cuck Taylor Well-Known Member

    853
    Jul 6, 2013
    id like to be able to use paulownia for these blanks but sadly i don't have a good supplier to make it feasible. I have made a good contact recently that might put me in touch with some Chinese paulownia tho so down the road, if I can sell some cedar ones, getting affordable paulownia is on my list of to do's.
    I seriously think more people need to be growing it, seems like its really just the best stuff, plus its helpful that a felled paulownia tree will grow back from its previously harvested stump and then be ready to harvest in a short while. Cedar on the other hand is abundant in the north, but is not a fast growth tree like paulownia.

    The domestic paulownia supplier who I've purchased from is located in Georgia and they sell out to west coast shapers pretty quick.. wegner surfboards.. but this supplier sells their rough sawn lumber for 8 bucks per board foot... that translates to an expensive surfboard but lightweight and super stable, and good resistor to water.
    the man or woman who can farm lots of paulownia will have plenty of demand thats for sure.
     
    Cuck Taylor, Apr 15, 2014
    Cuck Taylor, Apr 15, 2014
  22. Apr 15, 2014 #60
    Lipsmacker

    Lipsmacker Well-Known Member

    264
    Sep 17, 2012
    Another question. how does a wooden board float as compared to a foam one. Do boards of equal dimensions float a surfer of the same weight? Ive never surfed a wooden board but I an interested in them and would love to build one. Thanks.
     
    Lipsmacker, Apr 15, 2014
    Lipsmacker, Apr 15, 2014
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