something surf related

Discussion in 'All Discussions' started by njsurfer42, Apr 17, 2014.

  1. LBCrew

    LBCrew Well-Known Member

    Aug 12, 2009
    That looks more like it...
     
  2. EmassSpicoli

    EmassSpicoli Well-Known Member

    Apr 16, 2013
    What would you consider the extremity of width and thickness (per length) where a HPSB is no longer and now much more of a groveler, egg or fish? I know some of this is nose-related but let's say even a rounder nose had rocket and flip still.
     

  3. LBCrew

    LBCrew Well-Known Member

    Aug 12, 2009
    A better way to think of it might be to figure about 20L of volume per 100 lbs of body weight.
     
  4. EmassSpicoli

    EmassSpicoli Well-Known Member

    Apr 16, 2013
    That's simple enough. So anything less than that is HPSB category and above is groveler, etc.?
     
  5. kpd73

    kpd73 Well-Known Member

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    Jan 30, 2013
    bonzer jamboards 1.jpg

    My 6'7 x 20.5 x 2.35 Campbell bros Bonzer pod5. Modified and taken off a CI Machado single fin template to add rocker, flip in nose and tail. Moonlight glassed and resin color, not spray.
    Waist plus to Double overhead and beyond. Just craves and LOVES the juice. Paddles like an 8'0. Surfs like a 6'0. Up and going you've never felt Drive going down the line like this. And you Don't lose speed in and out of tight turns. I'll repeat that because it bears repeating. You Don't lose speed coming in and out of tight turns. It's unreal.
    Another HUGE plus is being glued to the face on steep drops. The fin configuration drives water away and vacuums you to the wave. I've made Ridiculous drops on this thing. Total confidence inspiring in every facet of surfing and a Total Blast.
    Only draw back is it's not a small wave board. Can be ridden, just shouldn't be.
    This is the silent revolution. Good Energy to everyone here. Awesome thread.
     
  6. njsurfer42

    njsurfer42 Well-Known Member

    Nov 9, 2009
    that's a killer board, kpd. am i mistaken or is that red-x fin system for the side fins?
     
  7. njsurfer42

    njsurfer42 Well-Known Member

    Nov 9, 2009
    i feel like it has a lot to do w/ overall plan shape & the rocker, also.
     
  8. EmassSpicoli

    EmassSpicoli Well-Known Member

    Apr 16, 2013
    That's an interesting board. Seems too wide to be in the semi-gun category. Is that thickness on the thin side for a board of that length and width? For rails offering better performance I presume?

    What I'm finding in my own riding is that I need entry rocker even for thicker and smaller boards. You guys here on this thread are a big help in learning more.
     
  9. Sandblasters

    Sandblasters Well-Known Member

    May 4, 2013
    john tolly is your shapper i can give you the contact info or show you some of the boards i have by him,
     
  10. kpd73

    kpd73 Well-Known Member

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    Jan 30, 2013
    Thanks man and yeah it's Red-x. One bolt-No jolt. Travelling board.
     
  11. kpd73

    kpd73 Well-Known Member

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    Jan 30, 2013
    Thanks man it Is interesting...The thickness is the widest point and most of that volume is in the middle foiled out Really nicely to some medium rails and hard edge throught the last 1/4.

    And just a suggestion Emass regarding more entry rocker? You don't need it. If your name was SouthPacific Spicoli? Sure. But, not for around here where we live. I'm not sure what type of boards you ride but I'm guessing primarily shortboards? Look for or ask for something that has a rolled entry in the bottom contour through the nose, like on a Hull. It will speed water down and away Very quickly and smoothly and won't interrupt your rail line like More rocker would.
    Oh, and angle your take offs. 90% of the waves we surf here not only allow it, they demand it. Good luck man.
     
    Last edited: Apr 21, 2014
  12. njsurfer42

    njsurfer42 Well-Known Member

    Nov 9, 2009
    it's funny how many people love the removable side fins for travel, whether red-x, lok-box, or fcs. i've never had bonzers w/ any of those & (through pure dumb luck, apparently) have never had a problem traveling w/ my bonzers all over the place.
     
  13. njsurfer42

    njsurfer42 Well-Known Member

    Nov 9, 2009
     
  14. LBCrew

    LBCrew Well-Known Member

    Aug 12, 2009
    I've been putting a little vee in the entry on my smaller wave boards with lower rocker and wider noses, and it works beautifully. Stole that idea from William "Stretch" Riedel. They push less water when paddling (a problem with a lot of wide-nosed boards) and add a touch of rail rocker in the nose, which helps prevent the nose rail from catching then coming off the top or when you're trying to put as much rail into a turn as a small/weak wave can handle.
     
  15. AndrewIfallalot

    AndrewIfallalot Well-Known Member

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    Aug 24, 2012
    Here's my Campbell Bros board. 6-1 x 19 x 2.5 with foiled rails; its my winter good wave board but will work in waist high stuff as long as its a good shape

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    Here's one by Danny Martinez in San Diego. 3 fin bonzer setup, 5-10 x 20

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    Barry Snyder is currently designing me something that is going to be a 5 fin bonzer and the sickness
     
  16. njsurfer42

    njsurfer42 Well-Known Member

    Nov 9, 2009
    love that chili bonzer, ifall. barry snyder's work is amazing as well...definitely a positive addition to any thread. make sure you post pics of that board when it's finished!