This is so on point, I know idiothunter doesn't read my posts, which is great, but his shoot from the mouth style fits with his not being able to read and predict buoys based in local knowledge, he obviously has no local knowledge other than what he can read online
This is true, but give the guy a break. I mean surf season is right around the corner.... It's been like 9 months since he's plopped down on the boogie board. He's frothing to get in his 8 sessions this year.
Bro your estrogen/progesterone levels must be cranking high if you like drama. I like me a functional forum with informed Socratic debate of valid topics plus a few laughs.
Ya bu, i guess when all your local breaks have cams and 100% accurate reports (which are taken from the buoys and plugged into a wave model, by the way) then there is no need to know anything about how to understand what the buoy is telling you. I dont know, i grew up on a coast with very inaccurate reports and no cams. So reading a buoy is pretty much how i do it, or listen to a weather band radio. But hey im just an "arrogant beginner" so no need listen to me.
dudes, brahs, mans,dudes brahs,dudes mans, the only way to truly know is to go or look at a cam. but going can never hurt, unless some gangster robs you, or your shooting up on the beach.
theres only 2 things that come from rhode island,steers and queers,i don't see any horns on ya so what that makes you?? as far as buoys go,u do realize every surf forecast website,phone,tv,etc exists because of buoys.it takes time to learn how to use them,buoys are the pitocol of oceanography
Give it a rest SGT Hartman....or else I'm going to stick my horns right up where the sun don't shine. Of course buoys are useful in inputting data for forecast models. That's a far cry from thinking the buoy will never fail and just because you see 3 feet at 8 seconds 100 miles offshore that's that what will be at the beach when you get there.
It's a snapshot. Just like a picture of a guy boosting a big air. Then he eats it. All you see is the big air. Same with a buoy reading. Try looking at it again a few times to see if there is any consistency in direction, size etc. It takes intelligence to see patterns in what uninformed others (shark c-hunter) see as random bits of info. Or try investing in a Magic Eight Ball: "Ask again later".
im not a buoy expert,but I know they usually give 2 readings that are miles apart,like itll say 2ft at 11 seconds,then 12ft at 15 seconds,i don't know why,maybe that's the far offshore buoy idk.I do my predicting from the weather channel.just watch for the low pressure,hopefully theres a high pressure to the west so it pushes it offshore,and watch the isobars and the closer they are together,the better the swell.if the isobars are far apart,that usually means onshore victory at sea,while whoever is near the close together isobars will see epic surf. I don't ever check surfcams anymore.i think they should destroy every single one,because its a big let down.u watch onscreen and its like eh,il stay home doesn't look that good,and the next day everyones talking about how epic it was,or its too big but u find out it was perfect size.the best way is to just go down to the beach and check the surf,for those of us who are fortunate to live near the water
cep you may not remember lunchtime so I won't expect you to remember explaining all this to me when I first came on the forum. Pressure readings have been my biggest factor in planning sessions. There are of course several elements at work though you said look for the low and that's what I do. Especially with big changes in temp on the forecast, I know then too that at least something good is coming. Keep it simple and yes, go check the break. I've scored when not expecting to from just checking the break for the hell of it. I've also lost out (not often) when not checking the break even though it would've been well worth the effort.
I haven't had any luck with the "spot on" feature and this classifies under accuracy. I'm just trying to help so don't freak on me. Maybe someone else can work it in with the "spot on" thingy. Today @ 3pm SI calls for 6.7@7 ESE, for my zone. The 44066 is currently reporting 9.5@12.9 E (2pm) That's all, thank you, good day.
It's 75 miles off the coast. The SI forecast is not for 75 miles off the coast. You guys still haven't figured this out eh? Look at this image. (now obviously wave significant wave height/swells are different. I understand that. But this gives a good idea. Another example from hurrricane Bill of swells eroding Notice how wave height is decreasing as it gets farther from it's source of generation and closer to the coast? Swells erode. Even ultra powerful ones. 75-100 miles off coast is a totally different place. That's why nantucket island on an average 8-10 second period chest high south wind swell will have bigger wave heights than ri. It's closer to the source. THAT'S WHY A BUOY THAT SITS ON 75-100 MILES OFF THE COAST CAN BE REPORTING DIFFERENT WAVE HEIGHTS THAN WHAT IS HITTING THE SHORE!! Wow.....
Oh and it should be added steep waves(the stuff we get 90% of the time) decay rapidly over distance compared to a groundswell like bill.
Can't you use the Montauk Buoy for RI? I believe it gives a near shore (>25 miles ) and offshore (<25 miles) forecast from Maine to NY. I find it accurate for NY. Not sure if it is North of NY.
