You Are Not Special! YANS!

Discussion in 'All Discussions' started by rcarter, Jun 9, 2014.

  1. MichaelJR

    MichaelJR Well-Known Member

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    May 4, 2014
    I remember when I was younger, we were right on the cusp of the competitive vs "wallow in mediocrity you're a special little snowflake johnny" transition. We still had cub-scouts, competitions, little league had championships (and they still kept track of score), dodgeball was OK, bullying was met with a fist to the face, and American values still existed...the pursuit of excellence. Now, we are raising a generation of kids who feel entitled to whatever they want simply because they breathe. Mediocrity is the norm, and it's encouraged....what do they say "lead from behind". I was taught to lead by example and kick ass at whatever you're doing....and if you suck, find something you're good at and kick ass at it. These kids come out of the womb thinking they are all going to ivy leagues, playing pro sports, and getting a 6 figure job straight out of college. These clintonian types raising kids these days freak me out. I hear them negotiating with their kids, asking them "what time works for you sweetie", "if that bully bothers you, go tell someone or turn the other cheek", "do the best you can, you're a winner no matter what". No, you're going to do what I want when I say you can, and if you don't like it go to your room. If that bully bothers you, elbow to face, foot to nuts...he won't be doing it again. You are not good at baseball, and it's going to hurt your confidence, so how about we try soccer, you're better on your feet and chicks like soccer dudes (fact, I played soccer). That, and I'll be damned if my kids face (I don't have a kid, but I will someday) is buried in a cell phone or wonked out playing video games. Bored? Here's a bike, go ride it. I hear the beach is going off, let's surf. Let's get some dirtbikes and raise hell. Get your kids outside, get them active, turn them into normal people that can interact with other humans. I've seen kids 12 years old so socially awkward they can barely look at one another in the eyes. Very weird group on their way up.

    I could go on for days about this. Pussification of America. They've been coddled their entire lives, expect everything to come to them without as much as lifting a finger.
     
  2. MichaelJR

    MichaelJR Well-Known Member

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    May 4, 2014
    Tyler f***ing Durden. Spoken for truth.

    [video=youtube;98LeLZ2crZE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98LeLZ2crZE[/video]
     

  3. HARDCORESHARTHUFFER-RI

    HARDCORESHARTHUFFER-RI Well-Known Member

    Sep 17, 2013
    I think this thread is two separate conversations.
    No one is special, but everyone counts, if they work hard, hard work is what counts


    and individuals make a difference, rcarter, who was your first boss? did he help make you a better employee, person?

    did Patton make a difference in WW2?

    individuals do make a difference, its the deluded violent ones who are worrisome
     
  4. MichaelJR

    MichaelJR Well-Known Member

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    May 4, 2014
    I think what we are saying is that you're not born special, great, or incredible. One must carve themselves into something more, usually involving hard work (or insider trading/trust fund/dumb luck).

    Violent people take the easy way of becoming "special". They confuse accomplishment with notoriety. Another sign of that generation....the complete lack of a moral compass.


    Patton was the man. He did credit his military prowess with past life enlightenment though, so he inherited (by his account) a fair amount of info. I suppose a military mind trust fund. Pretty cool guy actually, had some interesting views on life as a whole.
     
  5. rcarter

    rcarter Well-Known Member

    Jul 26, 2009
    I agree with of the points you guys made. I do think some people make big differences in the world (inventors, doctors, world leaders, etc) but like was said they were not born special or destined to be great. They worked hard and had drive. In addition I would bet they were not self obsessed a holes either like many you see in the news today. I agree MIS we have no great generation left and most folks are just chasing stupid stuff they don't need but that is another rant all together.

    MIS to your question I have not had any boss in my life ever influence me either way. My influences came from family and friends I knew and some folks I read about. At the end of the day a job is a job and if a boss influences your life enough to affect it outside of work then that person is probably a friend and not just a boss and like I said friends and family due influence you and make you special. As to NSA watching me again I really do not care. I'm not that interesting and if they are monitoring me then I'm actually pissed at the waist of tax payer money for someones salary to watch my boring A$$ life :cool: I know this bothers many but I really could care less from my point of view.

    The point I'm making is if you do some big act, especially if it is a negative or violent act 99.999999% of the time you will have zero influence on the world. Yes there are exceptions, Hitler and the jews, slavery and human right violations in the world but these are perpetrated by a country or ruling party with an army not a few deranged idiots with weapons.
     
  6. seldom seen

    seldom seen Well-Known Member

    Aug 21, 2012
    We are the all singing all dancing crap of the world. We are all part of the same compost heap.
     
  7. seldom seen

    seldom seen Well-Known Member

    Aug 21, 2012
    Well said Hanna...that same noise machine factors into the hysteria behind the wolf hunts in the Northern Rockies, that coupled w the cattle folks. Yeah I know, obsessed w wolves.
     
  8. metard

    metard Well-Known Member

    Mar 11, 2014
    nice try but no

    you're drinking the kool aid and you don't even know it
     
  9. Koki Barrels

    Koki Barrels Well-Known Member

    Aug 14, 2008
    If YANS is true, then who is supposed to care about the dead besides friends and family, by your logic.

    Truth is, there are special people, people who are true leaders, people who make life better....just because you may not be one of them does not necessarily give you the right to come on here and remind us that we are all sheep....

    But, so be it.

    Everybody can't be special.
    Everybody can't win.

    The violence in our society is actually very mild compared to generations of the past.



    In absolutely no way, shape or form am I condoning the behavior of these a$$holes, but i can say for sure I've met some people who had power and abused it and if I didn't care about my life....I'd put abullet in their f^ckin' heads faster than you can say "fa-gina".

    that is all.
     
  10. HARDCORESHARTHUFFER-RI

    HARDCORESHARTHUFFER-RI Well-Known Member

    Sep 17, 2013
    if anything he is spitting it through his nose as he decries it, but despite any simplifications it is kinda spot on, its a money/murder/fear/sex circus on 24/7, I mean the senator in Cali was gun running, anything o the news? no, but this fits in the narrative, There we go. The Great Big White terrorist has arrived!

    This is convenient as now the media has a way to demonize the gadsen flag, liberty movement, freedom lovers. More and more can see that a growing consensus no longer believes anything the government does or says and furthermore would surmise that the said crooks are acting against us. e.g. nsa, bailouts, etc

    If this is an engineered problem to which they already have the solution, eric holders "domestic radicalization" task force may on the job

    If this premise is correct then they are using a Hegalian dialectic to lead the population down the path they desire, which may not be the life, liberty, and pursuit of awesome we Americans are use too.

    Solution > Problem > Synthesis
    repeat

    two things: the Bundy Ranch people kicked them out, they were felons, and this story just seems off/odd, wonder where these folks came from
     
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  11. your pier

    your pier Well-Known Member

    Dec 2, 2013
    and that's exactly the point! that's where everyone is lost! that is why i joined this forum! that is why surfing speaks on so many levels to me!

    life is not about the reward...and the wave isn't either...and that's why i'm glad i can't remember a wave once it is gone.

    life is about right now, as is surfing. it's about harnessing the good around you to enjoy but a few fleeting seconds that can only be cherished in a feeling. that is why at the end of every session, the thought of paddling in and not catching one last good one is so difficult.

    somewhere along the lines our culture in general has either forgotten or lost the appreciation of a journey. of not knowing what the result will be eventually, but living every moment believing that there is some kind of reward at the end, and that there are little nuggets of time along the way that are more precious and valuable than anything someone could hold. and finally, to me isn't value isn't something that others say that you're worth, but something that you can pass on to others. saw a total kook going in to some awful conditions the other day when i was coming in (winds had crossed and conditions were disorganized and mushy as all shyte). he asked how it was. i relayed that above info. he said, oh, well this is my first time surfing. first i thought...mehhhh. then i thought, what would i have liked to hear. so i told him, the waves still had some power, it was a beautiful day, and that he should have a fun time learning. to be honest, no judgement of mine would help him to find what i've found out there - so i thought, have at it, man.

    lastly, i'd have to say that our wisest fellow humans that we have documented are the ones that have been able to share with us simple truths that give us pause for inner reflection. to close, in the words of one of them, "the love you take is equal to the love you make."
     
  12. MY SAVIOR

    MY SAVIOR Well-Known Member

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    Feb 21, 2014
    This is gone to get nowhere. You guys will take this topic to the limit and something will get said and it will get locked. I am actually surprised it is not locked already. If I could speak truth I could explain it to yall,but I may offend someone so I have to keep my mouth zipped. Hint: one word says it all and it is not J........
     
  13. nynj

    nynj Well-Known Member

    Jul 27, 2012
    Why would it get locked? Nobody has said anything offensive. Only different opinions.
    Hint: If there was a Je_us these things would not happen.

     
  14. kidrock

    kidrock Well-Known Member

    Aug 1, 2010
    This kind of stuff has been going on since the beginning of time, generation to generation, country to country, President to President.

    This has nothing to do with politics. I'm an equal opportunity hater...I dislike both Liberals and Conservatives. If you identify with politicians, you have failed to think for yourself.

    It has nothing to do with Reagan or Clinton or Bush or Obama or George Fkn Washington or the Constitution.

    This has everything to do with humans that psychologically snap. Jeeze, get over it.
     
  15. DosXX

    DosXX Well-Known Member

    Mar 2, 2013
    A couple things.

    What is meant by being or not being "special"?
    Perhaps our society's meaning of special is out of wack. So many things are too influenced by the media and entertainment. People's over-reactions to situations (minor inconveniences and perceived slights) seem to be based on what they see on TV or in the movies. An erroneous sense of entitlement is too prevalent nowadays.

    You don't have to be an overpaid professional sports star, rock star, talk show host, or the Kardashians (a useless bunch, IMO) to be special. Special to me is someone who contributes to society, is helpful to others, radiates a cheerful and positive attitude, treats others with respect and civility, and generally has a positive influence on those and the environment around them. I see these kind of special people in the education and medical fields all the time. Teachers and nurses come to mind. But they come from of all callings and walks of life: the lady in the toll booth, EMS volunteer, fireman, the waiter at your restaurant, flight attendant, the janitor in your office building, the bagger at the grocery store, et al.

    My son, who was a junior at ODU this past year, was held up at gunpoint last year at 2 AM right in front of our house. He was driving back from a friend who lived in our neighborhood. Being robbed at gunpoint was something that never happens around here. If anything it's the occasional loud party after midnight or some kids who got caught roaming around after curfew on a summer night.
    Three black guys in their early 20s wearing dark hooded sweatshirts and riding BMX type bikes robbed my son just as he was getting out of his car. Needless to say, he was pretty shook up. When a gun is pressed against your forehead, your options are limited. He gave them the $70 bucks in his pocket, and they rode off. Of course we called the cops. Six police cars showed up, including a K-9 unit, but they never caught the crooks.
     
  16. natkitchen

    natkitchen Well-Known Member

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    Mar 29, 2011
    I like not being special. Once you get a little older you realize fame and fortune are not all they are cracked up to be. I enjoy my job, get to come home from work and hang out with the kids. Being a cog in the wheel is ok. These guys just sound like crazies. Work ethic is what's missing in today's kids. Just my .02 cents.
     
  17. rcarter

    rcarter Well-Known Member

    Jul 26, 2009
    I agree with this. We have lost the journey.

    Back to my point which I think I must clarify as I seemed to have offended many of you.

    1. Yes people do great and wonderful things and are heros in every aspect of the word. They do things that help all of humanity and make the world a better place. This does not mean they were special or destined to do these things. Nor does it mean they are special to ME or to anyone else who does not know them. It means we appreciate them for what they have done. It also in no way precludes that if they did not exist someone else would not have filled the void and accomplished the same thing. Therefore they are not special since another person could have done the same thing.

    2. People being told from birth that they are the most special, perfect, smartest, strongest, athletic, prettiest, blah, blah, blah person to walk the earth, leads to self righteous unprepared adults who feel that the world will be given to them like the trophy they got every year for standing on the field picking their nose at baseball games.

    3. This is the most important point to understand so listen up! YOU ARE SPECIAL to anyone who loves you , cares about you or is influenced by your existence. You however do not have enough influence on a large enough group of others to alter the thoughts of the world no matter how many people you try to kill, how many dumb ass video rants you make or how many Twitter followers you have so get over it! (PS that was not directed at anyone just a broad statement).
     
  18. rcarter

    rcarter Well-Known Member

    Jul 26, 2009
    As to all the other NSA and spy stuff, man you guys are smart! I have no idea half of the people you are talking about. Like I said I'm so far removed from that stuff I don't even think the Govt would care to spy on me. But hey if they wanna know I love surfing, golf, guitar and rock climbing. I eat way to much fast food (but they know that from my bank accounts), spend a sh!t load too much time on surf forums (but they know that already too from tapping my IP) and fall asleep in my recliner by 11 most nights (but I bet I got my own drone peaking in the windows so they know that too.)

    Oh and Wayne you would be the only reason this thread would be locked.

    Ya'll making me type like Emass up in this biatch!
     
  19. Koki Barrels

    Koki Barrels Well-Known Member

    Aug 14, 2008
    Spot on, brother.

    If kids these days weren't spoiled rotten, there wouldn't be illegal people taking all the manual labor jobs.
     
  20. MFitz73

    MFitz73 Well-Known Member

    Aug 21, 2010
    They made a movie about this youre not special thing.... It's called fight club.