You Are Not Special! YANS!

Discussion in 'All Discussions' started by rcarter, Jun 9, 2014.

  1. KillaKiel

    KillaKiel Well-Known Member

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    Feb 21, 2012

    I saw this and had to respond even if someone else already has

    Valerie plame Wilson was in fact a spy but she was the wife of the us ambassador to Iraq. It is true she was sold out as well as her husband because they knew the war would not work and disagreed on policy relating to Iraq. Her job was to be the housewife that hung out with the wives of other VIPs such as those of the Iraqis and other nations like Saudi Arabia for one. She would use the information in addition to sending it up so that the us would have additional intel. Husbands talk to wives, wives gossip, Valerie "plays" gossip girl, gets info, and checkmate.

    I highly recommend watching the coverage on that from 7 years ago. My special ass did a project on it in my special university because I'm so special.

    Limiting bullets? Do you mean bullet control Chris Rock?
     
  2. KillaKiel

    KillaKiel Well-Known Member

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    Dude I remember those days. We at the same age. Sad really. I hate bully's but they are a necessary girl since they are "tools" for one in life. Call it overcoming adversity. Humans have a knack for survival. This might be far out to some but

    "War is what people do best."

    -Matthew White
     

  3. KillaKiel

    KillaKiel Well-Known Member

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    Feb 21, 2012
    I come from an immigrant family and this perplexes me and my family. But hey, they do jobs we don't want to do. Unemployment pays and pride means nothing. It's all abut pride. My grandfathers broken English said it best (and yes it should be learned)

    "You must promise yourself"
     
  4. KillaKiel

    KillaKiel Well-Known Member

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    Feb 21, 2012
    Ok I'm gonna be working soon so too bad I may not be able to monitor this thread. Here's something else...it seems to me that they teach hitler was some idiot that the idiots in Germany brought to power. In other words the mediocre will promote the mediocre is what I gather. They fail to teach that he won 2 iron crosses and was merited for bravery.

    I do not endorse this guy. He sucks and led to the death of 29 members of my family and we are not Jewish either. He did do some extraordinary things though. That's fuct but it's the truth. No one knows the whole story. Great evil must be dealt with great good. It's always easier to be the a hole is what my dad always said. Don't take the easy way out.
     
  5. worsey

    worsey Well-Known Member

    Oct 13, 2013
    ying: about 99.99 % of us behave reasonably well.
    yang: for the other .01% there is a mini-14 under my bed. unloaded but mag not far…..full mag i mean.
    (oh, and if the nsa is listening its a 15 round mag)...
     
  6. rcarter

    rcarter Well-Known Member

    Jul 26, 2009
    I gotta see that movie man. So many times a reference or joke is lost on me casue I have never seen it. Maybe I will Netflix it this weekend.
     
  7. your pier

    your pier Well-Known Member

    Dec 2, 2013
  8. HighOnLife

    HighOnLife Well-Known Member

    Jun 3, 2014
  9. MichaelJR

    MichaelJR Well-Known Member

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    May 4, 2014
    Wow, big generalization.

    Libertarian: AKA I want a married gay couple to be able to defend their pot plants for their pot store with AR15s. Your post couldn't be more MSNBC doctored if it had to be.

    For the record, Libertarians have been pro-gay marriage/pro-immigration WAY before the dems. Johnny come lately liberals. Only difference is, we respect business and peoples rights. Dems are GOP, but they have their own agenda. Demopublicans. Republocrats. Both the same. See past the party man. You're as brainwashed as the Limbaugh crowd you so vehemently speak against....except you've been blinded by maddow.

    I don't get blinded, thus, my arrival in a third party. Independent thought. One can in fact love that gay couples are getting married, while carrying guns, and opening businesses without being taxed to death. Wild concept, I know. Left and the right have been pounded with so much propaganda they don't think these things can exist in the same sentence, nevermind in real life.

    There are other options.
     
  10. seldom seen

    seldom seen Well-Known Member

    Aug 21, 2012
    Real Libertarians need to elucidate this more because to the average American(or slightly above avg. b/c the average is probly completely umaware) Tea Party = Libertarianism.
     
  11. kickmee6

    kickmee6 Active Member

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    Apr 25, 2014
    great rant, one of the best i've heard
     
  12. MichaelJR

    MichaelJR Well-Known Member

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    Who controls the 'tests'? Government? Same government that has the former head of Monsanto heading up the FDA? Same government that signed in NDAA? Patriot act?
    No thanks. Of the 23,000 gun related deaths last year, 87% were suicides. The remaining consisted primarily of POLICE shootings, small percentage left over was gang violence. Less than .01% were instances of "rampages". 88,000,000 and rising legal gun owners in the country. If your argument was truly about saving lives, you'd ban weather/cars/tobacco/alcohol/electricity/GMO food/oceans/boats....you get my point. Gun control isn't about violence or guns, it's about control. It's the last line of defense before a gov decides to enact its will without the will of the people in mind. You can ask Mao, Hitler, Stalin, Chavez, Castro, etc etc...they'll all tell you gun control works. Australia....banned guns, violent crime rose 93% and has yet to drop. England banned guns....same deal. Violence happens, evil exists, and the only thing taking away guns from good people does...is make the criminals in this world have an easier job. Ban them, fine....criminals follow the law right?
    As for bullets, I've been pressing my own and casting my own since I started shooting 3-gun. I shoot more in a month than most cops do in a career. Never gonna happen.
    Again....since when has ANYTHING mandated or law prevented a crime? We outlawed meth....seems to be working well. Heroin use doesn't happen right? How about driving drunk? Auto theft? Rape?
    You mean to tell me laws didn't bust out the forcefield and save us all from the evil killy things?

    Laws are like locked doors, they only keep the honest out. Level the playing field, give good people the ability to defend themselves. The instances like this are too few and far in between to legislate for. Want to save lives? Arm the good people in urban Chicago. Arm the people in Los Angeles. Arm NYC and the boroughs. Watch Darwin take hold.

    Ask Switzerland. All homes have a sig 550, select fire, government supplied. They don't have a crime rate. No need to ask why, it's rhetorical, nobody wants to break into a house or cause a scene in a place that everyone has mil grade weaponry at their toes.
     
  13. MichaelJR

    MichaelJR Well-Known Member

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    Tea Party was originally Libertarians, and some Libertarian leaning GOP (Ron Paul in particular). It has been hi-jacked, no question about it. Rightist bible thumpers (no offense to the Christians). There are still some great things they are pushing for that I can get on board with.

    Again, that's where it stops for me. The minute people start talking about legislating rights, the bedroom, marriage, money, etc....I'm done.

    I voted Gary Johnson. When I ask a so called "Libertarian" who Gary is, they look at me like I have 10 heads. Libertarian pres candidate. Than, I get "you threw your vote away, Obama got in because of you". Now, Obama IMO is evil incarnate. NDAA alone is the most terrifyingly authoritarian document ever constructed in US history. Makes the patriot act look like a Dr Seuss story. He signed it. That was enough for me to want to throw up in my mouth. Leftists won't acknowledge it, it's an icky topic that doesn't shine great on their all mighty godbama. The right won't go after it because it will shine a light on their lovely addition to the repertoire, being the patriot act.

    God I love this stuff. Scary world we live in. Blind leading the blind man. There is no left, there is no right, it's us vs them. Unfortunately, most of "us" can't see it. Divide and conquer.

    It's a brave new world.
     
  14. seldom seen

    seldom seen Well-Known Member

    Aug 21, 2012
    Scary indeed, but less scary with a high-power high capacity rifle:)
     
  15. zach619

    zach619 Well-Known Member

    Jan 21, 2009
    I have to disagree there also. I side more on the Libertarian side of things, as does Mike obviously... I think that the "fear of immigrants" or "fear of minorities" is a manipulated excuse that just hides through behind peoples view points... Here are a couple of real life application statistics concerning guns and death... The first one is interesting, because remember this:

    70% of the united states poplulation is "white"
    14% is "hispanic"
    12 % is "black"

    Here is a gun statistic for you:
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    So, let's be clear: This is per 100,000 person average, which done on a nation wide level, will still leave the same percentages: 70, 14 and 12... Now look at that chart above.

    I am not sitting here starting a racially tense argument, I am pointing out that all these Liberals and anti-gun people all point out these "white, bible belt" gun enthusiasts and try and argue against gun crime. When looking at the percentages, the "white, bible belt" gun enthusiasts are at the VERY BOTTOM of every negative gun statistic you can imagine... So just because the ones that are VOCAL about it, represent something you don't like, you are opposing the WRONG PEOPLE. The ones doing all the killing with these weapons are NOT on TV, they are not voicing their opinion, and if they are all so heavily armed, in many cases with "dirty" or unregistered weapons, piling up by the 10s of thousand in every major city... You want to talk about gun law propoganda and how the Tea Party is instilling fear of immigrants, gays and brown and poor people.... I mean, I think you have wool over your eyes. The most violent, heavily armed people in this country that USE their guns on a daily basis, as bodies pile up and never reach the national media are in Urban environments. Yes, every now and again some crazy kid shoots a school up, but the American's that are defending gun laws in public and voicing their opinion ARE THE RESPONSIBLE ONES....

    So when these statistics drop on all levels, and people can feel safer living on the outskirts of a major city, know that a large majority of criminals do NOT have access to "ILLEGAL" firearms, I am not going to be convinced to disarm... NO WAY. MOST guns used in inner city crimes are recycled, unregistered weapons that have been stolen, imported and a million other things. If I saw a bunch of hunting rifles that were registered legally and purchased at Walmart showing up as evidence in "Street Crimes" across america, then I may agree with some change... But that is NOT the case.

    Poverty is not always an excuse. Its a culture. There is a MUCH greater number of white individuals in this nation that are living in poverty, just off sheer numbers... Not talking percentages, I am talking about over all people that are poor. There is a DRASTICALLY lower number of violent gun crimes by these individuals....

    Point? That most of AMERICA'S gun crimes are committed by people that don't even vote. Anti-gun enthusiasts are fighting a battle against the responsible gun owners, instead of spending their time TRYING TO GET GUNS OFF THE INNER CITY STREETS!!! Stop fighting a war on guns being sold LEGALLY to registered owners and try and focus your efforts on taking ILLEGAL, unregistered, UNTRACEABLE weapons off of our city streets....

    Again, hundreds of people die in impoverished parts of our american cities EVERY day with gun crime... This is a situation of working your way from the GROUND up, not top to bottom getting guns out of the US. If I can stop at a stop light in most parts of town in Baltimore and assume that no one around me has a gun on their person, then maybe I will think about agreeing with you. But the reality of our country is just not that.

    These people fighting for gun rights and Amendments aren't the issue. They aren't running around killing people on a regular basis.
     
  16. MichaelJR

    MichaelJR Well-Known Member

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    May 4, 2014
    The founding fathers, by in large, were libertarian. At the time, referred to as "classical liberals". The articles of confederation, and the federalist papers, if interpreted without spinning to suit ones own political agenda, is largely a Libertarian foundation. In fact, the entire party is based on the country as it was originally designed. This country for the first 100 years was Libertarian, but it simply didn't have a name. Yes, the typical well slavery, land ownership, etc argument. Once must keep in mind this was the norm, and we based EVERYTHING on the original Roman model. Take away the common practices of the time, and you literally have the current Libertarian platform. The system started failing when rights started to be taken away, when we decided to lose our neutral policy and go globalist, when we declared ourselves the world police, and most of all when we decided to use the constitution for toilet paper.

    We did take 4% of the vote last time around. :) I know, it's sad, but prior to that we were barely measurable. There are more and more people identifying with it, because it makes sense.
     
  17. MichaelJR

    MichaelJR Well-Known Member

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    May 4, 2014
    I think if anything, the good urban populations should be encouraged to own guns, arm themselves to the teeth. Anti gun laws were jim crowe laws, designed to keep racial minorities complacent and disarmed. What it created, was a perpetual state of violence, years of indoctrination falling victim to lawlessness. Those who believe guns are bad are most often killed by them, because these people are urbanites, usually living in horrible areas plagued by individuals who don't recognize the law.

    Arm the inner cities, crime rate will drop in a hurry. Hardcore leftists hate when you say that. But, but but you said you like guns, so you're a racist, how can you be okay with arming racial minorities if you like guns?

    Ahh...because I like everybody regardless of skin color, and I want good people to be able to defend themselves.

    At that point in the conversation, their brains explode from sheer confusion. All this logic floating around, an o-ring was bound to blow at somepoint.
     
    Last edited: Jun 10, 2014
  18. Swifty

    Swifty Member

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    Jun 20, 2013
    “The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.”
    ― Edmund Burke
     
  19. KillaKiel

    KillaKiel Well-Known Member

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    Feb 21, 2012
    No one invades Switzerland. Check out what happened in Yugoslavia. If the forefathers of this nation were so smart and the Bill of Rights is so amazing, why is it brought into question? I hate to sound like a "gun-toting, Bible-thumping redneck", but they way things are going, they will survive.

    History is full of evil. I will recommend this to you all again...read the book titled

    THE GREAT BIG BOOK OF HORRIBLE THINGS

    Seriously, it is interesting, witty, and sickening. I think Michael and Zach would enjoy it thoroughly. The rest of you would too. It isn't biased. Its all about the multicides.
     
  20. MichaelJR

    MichaelJR Well-Known Member

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    May 4, 2014
    Spoken for truth.